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cke1982
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00:43 Sun 6 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
i just say gg and leave after 35 if there still going
whocares8x8
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00:45 Sun 6 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
many players in fbl carry on there run... which is very rude i think.
Right, but that's a player's choice. If people are annoyed by the time, they should quit at 35.
The game of straight itself shouldn't take this long.
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01:13 Sun 6 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
many players in fbl carry on there run... which is very rude i think.
Right, but that's a player's choice. If people are annoyed by the time, they should quit at 35.
The game of straight itself shouldn't take this long.


We arnt all as good as you Seb.
And all clans don't have virts or pros who can play the straight games.
Though i just played against turtle whos rank is over 800 and that took about 20 minutes.
turtle1560
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01:30 Sun 6 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
many players in fbl carry on there run... which is very rude i think.
Right, but that's a player's choice. If people are annoyed by the time, they should quit at 35.
The game of straight itself shouldn't take this long.


We arnt all as good as you Seb.
And all clans don't have virts or pros who can play the straight games.
Though i just played against turtle whos rank is over 800 and that took about 20 minutes.


yes our game took about 20 minutes, but my next game only took 8 minutes, and I think thats the point seb's trying to make where in an FBL match, all 4 games shouldnt take 20 minutes each.
whocares8x8
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01:32 Sun 6 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
It's apparently a reaaaallly complicated point.

But hey, it does take longer than other games. That's why there's only one of them.
4 frames of Straight in a set vs 16 frames of 8US in a set. I think that's more than fair for the other types?
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10:00 Sun 6 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Oh dear lol

The additional frame of straight was carefully thought through and seb makes an extremely valid point which has now been evidenced by turtle, not every game should take 20 mins, i dont like straight and am absolutely diabolical at it BUT i dont usually take 20 mins for a straight game unless im am playing embarrassingly awful 1 x 4 frames of straight was the best way forward as it allows for a draw, gives 8points like the other types but the 1 game removes some of the weight considering the number of whitewashes last seaon. If people struggle with thetime element then split th game into 2 parts and play 2 frames per session.

With regards to the subs rule i have not seen any call for it to be changed (that i remember) but again it has been in the league for 8 seasons now with no bother so there is no need to change it. Because the fbl is based upon a type rather than a combination it is going to be restrictive. I dont think i would like a free for all however i have upped the swaps to 3 to be more accommodating
whocares8x8
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10:50 Sun 6 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
With regards to the subs rule i have not seen any call for it to be changed (that i remember) but again it has been in the league for 8 seasons now with no bother so there is no need to change it. Because the fbl is based upon a type rather than a combination it is going to be restrictive. I dont think i would like a free for all however i have upped the swaps to 3 to be more accommodating
Fair enough, you're the runner.

Others and I have brought it up at least once over the last few seasons (if you really want me to find it, I will spend the time!). So it hasn't been "no bother".

I still would've liked a reason for why the rule exists though. Because it simply doesn't make sense. If you sub someone out of a straight game, he is burned for the entire fixture. He can never come back in.... oh well. your call.
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13:51 Sun 6 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
With regards to the subs rule i have not seen any call for it to be changed (that i remember) but again it has been in the league for 8 seasons now with no bother so there is no need to change it. Because the fbl is based upon a type rather than a combination it is going to be restrictive. I dont think i would like a free for all however i have upped the swaps to 3 to be more accommodating
Fair enough, you're the runner.

Others and I have brought it up at least once over the last few seasons (if you really want me to find it, I will spend the time!). So it hasn't been "no bother".

I still would've liked a reason for why the rule exists though. Because it simply doesn't make sense. If you sub someone out of a straight game, he is burned for the entire fixture. He can never come back in.... oh well. your call.


i agree why make a sub when u lose a sub if game type original player was in was in
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20:39 Sun 6 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I cannot give a reason for the rule when it was not me that implemented it, all I know is that it has worked, there haven't been any bumps in the road so it can stay until it does cause major issues
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17:16 Mon 7 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
loving pixies comments not being impressed with my clan when we only had 2 subs 9 players a one wasnt eligible and only had 1 game not complete when teams where let in who got less games completed than us in the past years and getting told get more players or where not in absolute joke
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19:13 Mon 7 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I cannot give a reason for the rule when it was not me that implemented it, all I know is that it has worked, there haven't been any bumps in the road so it can stay until it does cause major issues
That's the whole point. Rules should be there for a reason. If there is no reason for them, they should go.
Do we have to create the problem for you to change it even after we've described it? Prevention!!!
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20:23 Mon 7 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I cannot give a reason for the rule when it was not me that implemented it, all I know is that it has worked, there haven't been any bumps in the road so it can stay until it does cause major issues


It depends on what you class as issues, it has prevented games being completed so it causes a problem. There is no need for the rule and if it was removed more games would have a chance of being completed.
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21:41 Mon 7 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
loving pixies comments not being impressed with my clan when we only had 2 subs 9 players a one wasnt eligible and only had 1 game not complete when teams where let in who got less games completed than us in the past years and getting told get more players or where not in absolute joke


Lol why did you feel the need to post this on the discussion page, I was trying to handle the situation with care but nah just another one out for the sympathy vote.

I shall handle this via offline message like I originally started.
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23:34 Mon 7 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
loving pixies comments not being impressed with my clan when we only had 2 subs 9 players a one wasnt eligible and only had 1 game not complete when teams where let in who got less games completed than us in the past years and getting told get more players or where not in absolute joke


Lol why did you feel the need to post this on the discussion page, I was trying to handle the situation with care but nah just another one out for the sympathy vote.

cause i was suprised by ur comments

I shall handle this via offline message like I originally started.
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09:11 Tue 8 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
To try and salvage some of the mixed up teams due to the FCL not running alongside the FBL - I am happy to allow those who changed clans during the pre-seasons to change over to their new clans, as I understand there are a fair few. This is not a transfer window opening just a chance for everyone to get the teams in order.
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09:56 Tue 8 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I cannot give a reason for the rule when it was not me that implemented it, all I know is that it has worked, there haven't been any bumps in the road so it can stay until it does cause major issues


It depends on what you class as issues, it has prevented games being completed so it causes a problem. There is no need for the rule and if it was removed more games would have a chance of being completed.


It is a ridiculous rule. If the only sub you have is someone who's already been subbed out of a game then this rule is stopping a game from been played, whats the point in waiting for it to cause problems before you do something about it. If you can't think of a valid reason why it's in place then get rid of it.
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11:12 Tue 8 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I cannot give a reason for the rule when it was not me that implemented it, all I know is that it has worked, there haven't been any bumps in the road so it can stay until it does cause major issues


It depends on what you class as issues, it has prevented games being completed so it causes a problem. There is no need for the rule and if it was removed more games would have a chance of being completed.


It is a ridiculous rule. If the only sub you have is someone who's already been subbed out of a game then this rule is stopping a game from been played, whats the point in waiting for it to cause problems before you do something about it. If you can't think of a valid reason why it's in place then get rid of it.


agree it just makes u not be able to use subs and then people arent happy if u only have a few left as if game type is complete u cant use them in any other game type
whocares8x8
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00:27 Thu 10 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
erm, so what's going on with the FBL now?
bluenose1872
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00:33 Thu 10 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
erm, so what's going on with the FBL now?


Not sure what you mean Seb? Do you mean start time?

If so im sure Jema said it is due to start this coming weekend.
whocares8x8
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00:51 Thu 10 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Yeah that's what I meant. I only heard about Individuals.
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