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00:39 Sat 25 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I actually enjoyed the killer more than any of the other competitions as it is the only true team event in clans. I do wonder if a league could work where each team plays all other teams. If we set a maximum of 5 per clan. You score 10 for 1st, 9 for 2nd etc down to one for 10th. If only 7 players you would still score 10 down to 4 points. Award a 5 point bonus for winning but you could then have a team who finishes 2nd,3rd and 4th wining more points. Every point a team scores then goes to the overall league table to see the best clan overall as opposed to the best individual.
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01:00 Sat 25 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
No bonus points needed though, with your idea you could just give 15 for 1st, then 9 for 2nd and so on.
I think 1st should get at least 20 or 25 though, you'd need 35 or so (36 I think if you're dealing with a team that only had one player) to guarantee a win.
I bet you chris will want it at 40 or better, to guarantee a big win for 1st place.

and yeah, I enjoyed killer too, just think it'd be even better as a league

Edited at 01:05 Sat 25/10/14 (BST)
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01:11 Sat 25 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Just looked at a possible league format and for 7 clans playing each other clan once would take a total of seven matches for the whole season.

That would be on the same 'three team and max 5 players per team' format.

The only downside might be that the fixture draw could play an over important role.
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01:15 Sat 25 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
with the 3 teams in a game.... I agree. Who that 3rd team happens to be could be an upsetter.
not an issue though with 2 teams per game

Edited at 01:23 Sat 25/10/14 (BST)
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01:21 Sat 25 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
No bonus points needed though, with your idea you could just give 15 for 1st, then 9 for 2nd and so on.
I think 1st should get at least 20 or 25 though, you'd need 35 or so (36 I think if you're dealing with a team that only had one player) to guarantee a win.
I bet you chris will want it at 40 or better, to guarantee a big win for 1st place.

and yeah, I enjoyed killer too, just think it'd be even better as a league

Edited at 01:05 Sat 25/10/14 (BST)


The point was with only making it a small bonus or even no bonus the other team could still win with players in 2nd 3rd and 4th for example.
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01:22 Sat 25 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
A two team, five player game, where you cant specify the order of players and you then end up with 5 in a row followed by 5 in a row for each team is a real bore.

Obviously the same applies with a three team, five player game, but the odds do favour a better split there.

Only works if you have a minimum agreed split. But that then needs players to keep rejoining new games until the order is right and acceptable which can be frustrating from experience.
beenjammin
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01:26 Sat 25 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
No bonus points needed though, with your idea you could just give 15 for 1st, then 9 for 2nd and so on.
I think 1st should get at least 20 or 25 though, you'd need 35 or so (36 I think if you're dealing with a team that only had one player) to guarantee a win.
I bet you chris will want it at 40 or better, to guarantee a big win for 1st place.

and yeah, I enjoyed killer too, just think it'd be even better as a league

Edited at 01:05 Sat 25/10/14 (BST)


The point was with only making it a small bonus or even no bonus the other team could still win with players in 2nd 3rd and 4th for example.

I understood, yu want 1st not to guarantee a win right? anything under 35 or so for 1st place would do that. ( my vote is for around 20 :) )
I was just saying: go ahead just award it for 1st place, instead of calling it bonus points.
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01:28 Sat 25 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
No bonus points needed though, with your idea you could just give 15 for 1st, then 9 for 2nd and so on.
I think 1st should get at least 20 or 25 though, you'd need 35 or so (36 I think if you're dealing with a team that only had one player) to guarantee a win.
I bet you chris will want it at 40 or better, to guarantee a big win for 1st place.

and yeah, I enjoyed killer too, just think it'd be even better as a league

Edited at 01:05 Sat 25/10/14 (BST)


The point was with only making it a small bonus or even no bonus the other team could still win with players in 2nd 3rd and 4th for example.

I understood, yu want 1st not to guarantee a win right? anything under 35 or so for 1st place would do that.
I was just saying: go ahead just award it for 1st place, instead of calling it bonus points.


Yes 15 for 1st would work for me
beenjammin
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01:31 Sat 25 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
A two team, five player game, where you cant specify the order of players and you then end up with 5 in a row followed by 5 in a row for each team is a real bore.

Obviously the same applies with a three team, five player game, but the odds do favour a better split there.

Only works if you have a minimum agreed split. But that then needs players to keep rejoining new games until the order is right and acceptable which can be frustrating from experience.

I agree it's less fun without a good split, but yousaid yourself it can happen either way, and I don't think the odds of a bad split are gonna be much different from one to the other.
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01:34 Sat 25 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
A two team, five player game, where you cant specify the order of players and you then end up with 5 in a row followed by 5 in a row for each team is a real bore.

Obviously the same applies with a three team, five player game, but the odds do favour a better split there.

Only works if you have a minimum agreed split. But that then needs players to keep rejoining new games until the order is right and acceptable which can be frustrating from experience.


If we had a game which was 5 v 5 and it ended up being a run of 5, it may take ages as it is down to one player on each side to kill, this could be a good thing for one team if he is good at safety and a bad thing for the other team if he is poor at safety, so surely it would just be part of the game.
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11:08 Sat 25 Oct 14 (BST)  [Link]  
A two team, five player game, where you cant specify the order of players and you then end up with 5 in a row followed by 5 in a row for each team is a real bore.

Obviously the same applies with a three team, five player game, but the odds do favour a better split there.

Only works if you have a minimum agreed split. But that then needs players to keep rejoining new games until the order is right and acceptable which can be frustrating from experience.


If we had a game which was 5 v 5 and it ended up being a run of 5, it may take ages as it is down to one player on each side to kill, this could be a good thing for one team if he is good at safety and a bad thing for the other team if he is poor at safety, so surely it would just be part of the game.


as keith said its part of the game .. the pros in the final were very separated and uprising had chunks of two players together but they couldn't use it to their advantage .... if there are good players they can hang in anyway. people sometimes kill themselves trying too hard for snookers.
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03:39 Thu 27 Nov 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Will this be on this coming season ? i hope it is :)
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12:43 Thu 27 Nov 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
It will be. Because of us having eight clans this time it will need a slight change to the format. I was also hoping nick might be around and could make a couple of quick variations to Killer if they were easy and he had time, but unfortunately he's not logged in.
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12:51 Thu 27 Nov 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
nick might have his account removed soon
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15:15 Thu 27 Nov 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
wohooo :D good news thanks :)
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15:30 Tue 30 Dec 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
chris, any idea when this is starting :) ?
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16:10 Tue 30 Dec 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
The plan is to start the week commencing 11th January.

Again, like last time it will be a very simple competition. I am still hoping nick will come on at some point so next season might be a bit different.
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20:42 Mon 5 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Killer Challenge Cup - Season 2

Unfortunately nick has not been around to answer my queries about minor changes to Killer which would have changed the format for the competition.

Therefore for this season it will remain the same as last season and we will see what then happens over the next couple of months.


Round 1

FPD v Pocket Dynamos v Pool Sharks


The winners of this match go to Round 2

Please can each clan let me have the best times for them to play for the two week period between 11/1/15 and 25/1/15. I will then come up with the best choice for all and announce the set day and time for the match where each clan can play up to five members.
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11:42 Sun 18 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Killer Challenge Cup - Season 2

Round 1

FPD v Pocket Dynamos v Pool Sharks


The winners of this match go to Round 2

Sunday 25th January 2015 at 8pm (UK)

Please can you have your players ready and available to play by at about 7:50pm.

Thanks
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21:01 Sun 25 Jan 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
pds 101 v fpds 43 v _dave_ 12

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buckjam
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Well done folks, we all played well, buckjam was ul that his comp logged out, dave played great being that he was on his own. pds did some nice teamwork and we had a laugh :)
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