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19:43 Sun 8 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
I would go with: 4:4:2 - (Diamond)
GK: Hart
D/WB: P.Jones
DC: G.Cahill
DC: P.Jagielka
D/WB: L.Baines
DMC: S.Gerrard
ML: A.Lallana
AMC: R.Barkley
MR: R.Sterling
F: W.Rooney
F: R. Lambert
GK: Hart
D/WB: P.Jones
DC: G.Cahill
DC: P.Jagielka
D/WB: L.Baines
DMC: S.Gerrard
ML: A.Lallana
AMC: R.Barkley
MR: R.Sterling
F: W.Rooney
F: R. Lambert
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19:47 Sun 8 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
no sturridge u mad bro
I would go with: 4:4:2 - (Diamond)
GK: Hart
D/WB: P.Jones
DC: G.Cahill
DC: P.Jagielka
D/WB: L.Baines
DMC: S.Gerrard
ML: A.Lallana
AMC: R.Barkley
MR: R.Sterling
F: W.Rooney
F: R. Lambert
GK: Hart
D/WB: P.Jones
DC: G.Cahill
DC: P.Jagielka
D/WB: L.Baines
DMC: S.Gerrard
ML: A.Lallana
AMC: R.Barkley
MR: R.Sterling
F: W.Rooney
F: R. Lambert
no sturridge u mad bro
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19:55 Sun 8 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
On bench as too ball greedy, only had a good season IMO due to Suarez. (Good player but Rooney still more team player)
1 good season don't make a quality player, see if can replicate it.
1 good season don't make a quality player, see if can replicate it.
20:02 Sun 8 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
I guess everyone has an opinion
this team is picked to play against who ??????
this team is dead in the water against Italy
system I don't get
4 - 2 - 3 - 1
really
so Barkley is playing behind Rooney
your playing a team with no natural width
either all players play tight centrally or we expose one wing
we are playing Italy
no width will suit them bigtime
Lamps instead of the energy Henderson gives ?
Jones playing right back to with Sterling protecting him
really
plus Barkley getting a free role behind Rooney
isn't that Rooneys job
have faith in Roy I say, Ash are you Scottish by any chance
I would go with: 4:4:2 - (Diamond)
GK: Hart
D/WB: P.Jones
DC: G.Cahill
DC: P.Jagielka
D/WB: L.Baines
DMC: S.Gerrard
ML: A.Lallana
AMC: R.Barkley
MR: R.Sterling
F: W.Rooney
F: R. Lambert
GK: Hart
D/WB: P.Jones
DC: G.Cahill
DC: P.Jagielka
D/WB: L.Baines
DMC: S.Gerrard
ML: A.Lallana
AMC: R.Barkley
MR: R.Sterling
F: W.Rooney
F: R. Lambert
I guess everyone has an opinion
this team is picked to play against who ??????
this team is dead in the water against Italy
system I don't get
4 - 2 - 3 - 1
really
so Barkley is playing behind Rooney
your playing a team with no natural width
either all players play tight centrally or we expose one wing
we are playing Italy
no width will suit them bigtime
Lamps instead of the energy Henderson gives ?
Jones playing right back to with Sterling protecting him
really
plus Barkley getting a free role behind Rooney
isn't that Rooneys job
have faith in Roy I say, Ash are you Scottish by any chance
20:04 Sun 8 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
Daniel Sturridge (clinical infront of goal)
one bad game doesn't make a player bad
drooping him will kill his confidence
up front
supported by Rooney
one bad game doesn't make a player bad
drooping him will kill his confidence
up front
supported by Rooney
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20:08 Sun 8 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
Since when were 442 (Diamond) 4231?
I never said that -
All this protecting crap - just play the damn game to the best of their ability and pass and move. Defend as a unit, attack as a unit - End of.
I never said that -
All this protecting crap - just play the damn game to the best of their ability and pass and move. Defend as a unit, attack as a unit - End of.
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20:14 Sun 8 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
good season due to suarez no suarez was out first 6 games and half of them they didnt play together sturridge is quallity without saurez
20:40 Sun 8 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
diamond ?????
..............................Hart
.........Jones Cahill Jagielka Baines
.........Sterling Gerrard R.Barkley Lallana
.........................Rooney Lambert
yours looks like a
4-1-2-1-2
so Barkley in midfield
who roams everywhere with freedom
nothing against Sterling
but again he defends Jones
sorry but Henderson starts all day over Barkley
by all means bring Barkley on with 20 to go
he will tear right through defences
but to start
in that formation
plus we have no natural width
would you explain diamond and 4-4-2 please
im lost
Edited at 17:51 Sun 08/06/14 (BST)
Edited at 17:52 Sun 08/06/14 (BST)
..............................Hart
.........Jones Cahill Jagielka Baines
.........Sterling Gerrard R.Barkley Lallana
.........................Rooney Lambert
yours looks like a
4-1-2-1-2
so Barkley in midfield
who roams everywhere with freedom
nothing against Sterling
but again he defends Jones
sorry but Henderson starts all day over Barkley
by all means bring Barkley on with 20 to go
he will tear right through defences
but to start
in that formation
plus we have no natural width
would you explain diamond and 4-4-2 please
im lost
Edited at 17:51 Sun 08/06/14 (BST)
Edited at 17:52 Sun 08/06/14 (BST)
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20:56 Sun 8 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
Guess you've not seen the letters DMC and AMC?
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21:34 Sun 8 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
no Mackems in the sqaud so we will be fine
looking at a very disjointed England last night
don't think we are firing on all cylinders yet and not by a long way
watching Honduras kicking lumps out of us wouldn't have been tolerated in the world cup.
very worried about the Italy game
but we are Engerrrrrrrland
don't think we are firing on all cylinders yet and not by a long way
watching Honduras kicking lumps out of us wouldn't have been tolerated in the world cup.
very worried about the Italy game
but we are Engerrrrrrrland
no Mackems in the sqaud so we will be fine
21:44 Sun 8 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
should do but he wont always been set in his ways hodgson needs to attack teams and got a feeling hell be to cautious
With the amount of unnecessary stick Johnson gets he's the most underrated player in the world
Hodgson should be bold, drop Rooney to give him a kick up the backside, wouldn't bother with Welbeck. Lambert has goals in him, Sturridge too so play them up top. Sterling, Barkley and Lallana in attacking midfield with Gerrard and another anchor. Wilshere ain't living up to his hype and a few others could do better.
Pick the best players Roy, don't pick them because of the team they play for
Hodgson should be bold, drop Rooney to give him a kick up the backside, wouldn't bother with Welbeck. Lambert has goals in him, Sturridge too so play them up top. Sterling, Barkley and Lallana in attacking midfield with Gerrard and another anchor. Wilshere ain't living up to his hype and a few others could do better.
Pick the best players Roy, don't pick them because of the team they play for
should do but he wont always been set in his ways hodgson needs to attack teams and got a feeling hell be to cautious
21:44 Sun 8 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
4-4-2 diamond, instead of 2 central midfielders you play with an attacking midfielder and a defensive midfielder (both central) so instead of the midfield 4 being in a line, they are in a diamond (hence the name). The shape and compactness of the diamond alters depending on the individual team using it. Ash's squad would line up like this:
-------------------Hart--------------------
Jones------Cahill---Jagielka---Baines
------------------Gerrard--------------------
Sterling-----------------------------Lallana
------------------Barkley--------------------
-------Lambert------------Rooney-------
-------------------Hart--------------------
Jones------Cahill---Jagielka---Baines
------------------Gerrard--------------------
Sterling-----------------------------Lallana
------------------Barkley--------------------
-------Lambert------------Rooney-------
21:50 Sun 8 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
I would go with: 4:4:2
GK: Hart
D/WB:G Johnson
DC: G.Cahill
DC: P.Jagielka
D/WB: L.Baines
DMC: S Gerrard
ML: R Barkley
AMC: A.Lallana
MR: J Milner
F: D Sturridge
F: R. Lambert
GK: Hart
D/WB:G Johnson
DC: G.Cahill
DC: P.Jagielka
D/WB: L.Baines
DMC: S Gerrard
ML: R Barkley
AMC: A.Lallana
MR: J Milner
F: D Sturridge
F: R. Lambert
04:57 Mon 9 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
So like I said it ain't a 4.4.2 then is it ????
Its-
4_1_2_1_2
System
4_4_2
Isn't a diamond formation
It's 2 wingers and 2 central midfielders
Zante do you know anything about football
4-4-2 diamond, instead of 2 central midfielders you play with an attacking midfielder and a defensive midfielder (both central) so instead of the midfield 4 being in a line, they are in a diamond (hence the name). The shape and compactness of the diamond alters depending on the individual team using it. Ash's squad would line up like this:
-------------------Hart--------------------
Jones------Cahill---Jagielka---Baines
------------------Gerrard--------------------
Sterling-----------------------------Lallana
------------------Barkley--------------------
-------Lambert------------Rooney-------
-------------------Hart--------------------
Jones------Cahill---Jagielka---Baines
------------------Gerrard--------------------
Sterling-----------------------------Lallana
------------------Barkley--------------------
-------Lambert------------Rooney-------
So like I said it ain't a 4.4.2 then is it ????
Its-
4_1_2_1_2
System
4_4_2
Isn't a diamond formation
It's 2 wingers and 2 central midfielders
Zante do you know anything about football
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05:02 Mon 9 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
So like I said it ain't a 4.4.2 then is it ????
Its-
4_1_2_1_2
System
4_4_2
Isn't a diamond formation
It's 2 wingers and 2 central midfielders
Zante do you know anything about football
Craig there is a 4:4:2 (Diamond Formation) - google it and see.
http://www.freeyouthsoccerdrills.com/soccer-tips.html
Edited at 02:07 Mon 09/06/14 (BST)
4-4-2 diamond, instead of 2 central midfielders you play with an attacking midfielder and a defensive midfielder (both central) so instead of the midfield 4 being in a line, they are in a diamond (hence the name). The shape and compactness of the diamond alters depending on the individual team using it. Ash's squad would line up like this:
-------------------Hart--------------------
Jones------Cahill---Jagielka---Baines
------------------Gerrard--------------------
Sterling-----------------------------Lallana
------------------Barkley--------------------
-------Lambert------------Rooney-------
-------------------Hart--------------------
Jones------Cahill---Jagielka---Baines
------------------Gerrard--------------------
Sterling-----------------------------Lallana
------------------Barkley--------------------
-------Lambert------------Rooney-------
So like I said it ain't a 4.4.2 then is it ????
Its-
4_1_2_1_2
System
4_4_2
Isn't a diamond formation
It's 2 wingers and 2 central midfielders
Zante do you know anything about football
Craig there is a 4:4:2 (Diamond Formation) - google it and see.
http://www.freeyouthsoccerdrills.com/soccer-tips.html
Edited at 02:07 Mon 09/06/14 (BST)
13:50 Mon 9 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
4-1-2-1-2 is another way of saying 4-4-2 diamond, it's a common formation that's been used for many many years in many famous teams. You'd think a football coach worth his salt would of at least heard of it
Liverpool used it to beat Sunderland in March, there's an example for you. Coutinho I played the tip of the diamond and Gerrard was holding midfield
4 midfielders in diamond 4-4-2 (RM/RCM AMC DMC LM/LCM)
Liverpool used it to beat Sunderland in March, there's an example for you. Coutinho I played the tip of the diamond and Gerrard was holding midfield
4 midfielders in diamond 4-4-2 (RM/RCM AMC DMC LM/LCM)
13:55 Mon 9 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
You's can have your debate about England all you want but it's gonna make very little difference.
We are a crap nation, a crap team and the players stand for everything that i think is wrong in football. We won't make it past the group stage realistically and i will be supporting foreign teams.
We are a crap nation, a crap team and the players stand for everything that i think is wrong in football. We won't make it past the group stage realistically and i will be supporting foreign teams.
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14:52 Mon 9 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and yours is just as valid as anyone elses.
I think the best thing to do is watch the footy and enjoy it. Put no pressure on the lads, and see how they do.
As I was born here, I will always support my home nation, to support anything else just seems like you might as well be fighting blue on blue...
You's can have your debate about England all you want but it's gonna make very little difference.
We are a crap nation, a crap team and the players stand for everything that i think is wrong in football. We won't make it past the group stage realistically and i will be supporting foreign teams.
We are a crap nation, a crap team and the players stand for everything that i think is wrong in football. We won't make it past the group stage realistically and i will be supporting foreign teams.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and yours is just as valid as anyone elses.
I think the best thing to do is watch the footy and enjoy it. Put no pressure on the lads, and see how they do.
As I was born here, I will always support my home nation, to support anything else just seems like you might as well be fighting blue on blue...
17:31 Mon 9 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
Our home nation isn't even like a home anymore imo. I'm not saying don't have opinions but its getting a bit crazy all this for what will last all of 5 minutes lol.
I do agree with your statement though
I do agree with your statement though
17:33 Mon 9 Jun 14 (BST) [Link]
Ash ,,,, Zante
4-4-2 gives you natural width with 2 wingers and 2 central midfielders
Total tosh the system you describe
4-1-2-1-2
Your diamond makes the team narrow down both wings
4-4-2 is an attacking / defensive formation with no variation
With or without the ball
4-1-2-1-2
Lends nothing to attack what so ever
It makes the team totally narrow and gives no width
Defensively however it sinks into a
4-1-3-2 or a 4-1-4-1
Total blanket defensive
Please don't show silly diagrams ash, unless you understand the dynamics of the systems and how they are played
If we play your system against Italy with the players uve said
we play straight into their hands
Narrow into the heart of their defence ermmmm it's strongest capability is defence
We need natural width to get behind them
Baines and Johnson //Jones moving forward to give us this will gives us defensive problems if we are caught upfield
Jagyelja / Cahill and Gerrard are to slow as both Honduras and Ecuador showed
In my humble opinion
4-4-2 gives you natural width with 2 wingers and 2 central midfielders
Total tosh the system you describe
4-1-2-1-2
Your diamond makes the team narrow down both wings
4-4-2 is an attacking / defensive formation with no variation
With or without the ball
4-1-2-1-2
Lends nothing to attack what so ever
It makes the team totally narrow and gives no width
Defensively however it sinks into a
4-1-3-2 or a 4-1-4-1
Total blanket defensive
Please don't show silly diagrams ash, unless you understand the dynamics of the systems and how they are played
If we play your system against Italy with the players uve said
we play straight into their hands
Narrow into the heart of their defence ermmmm it's strongest capability is defence
We need natural width to get behind them
Baines and Johnson //Jones moving forward to give us this will gives us defensive problems if we are caught upfield
Jagyelja / Cahill and Gerrard are to slow as both Honduras and Ecuador showed
In my humble opinion
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