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zantetsukenz
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16:55 Sat 12 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
dunno why ppl are always talking about Messi, he aint been there best player by a far di maria been way better player.


Their best player has been Rojo, Enzo Perez were their best vs Holland and Sabella subs him lol. Messi been average say the least, one moment of brilliance vs Iran only.


Not a chance in hell. Mascherano was much better than Perez vs Netherlands and played the whole match not just two thirds of it. Can't say in a game where defence triumphed over attack that a player noted for his attacking work was MotM over one noted for his defensive work.

The thing about Messi is you can shut him off for 90 minutes and keep him completely quiet all that time and he still has the potential to be a match winner. Against United a few years ago with their supposedly strongest team they managed didn't give him a chance to get in the box and he still made them look like amateurs.

He doesn't look fully fit, I don't think he's probably recovered from his injuries this season and might need some more time off to do so.

There is still plenty to be shown by the Argentines, and I expect a good final but i'm still going for Germany like I said before the semi's. Think Brazil will nick the 3rd place play offs.

Oh and the Hummels quote (daily mail link aside) was about the second half. 2-1 in that half isn't exactly the embarrassing shambles of 5-0 in the first half
zantetsukenz
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17:14 Sat 12 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Both teams have got through by the odd goal in some games (all of Argentina's games), though Germany do have the ability to rout a team who don't take care in defence (Portugal and Brazil).

Unless there's gonna be a big shift of style of play Argentina will be more defensive and go for quick counter attacks while there is space, Germany will take a lot of possession and they know what to do with it which teams Argentina have faced haven't really.

Bayern and Dortmund like their evolved physical Tiki Taka and one of the main ways that style has been beaten is with a ruthless, fast counter attacking game. Though that comes when a team doesn't finish their chances (here's where I think the difference will be) and with Muller and Klose, the Germans have two of the best goal poachers in World Cup football history. They have a great midfield who also have a brilliant selection of long range shot players. If they play to their potential Germany should win the day.

I'm going 3-1 Germany . I hope that answer is a better one than Germany will win because they beat Brazil 7-1 because David Luiz is a poor CB when it really matters.
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21:06 Sat 12 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
How was that NOT a RED Card?
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21:07 Sat 12 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Good to see a referee not afraid to give a big decision against Brazil, unfortunate to see the wrong one given. Easily a free-kick not a pen, easily a red card not a yellow.


Netherlands actually showed some good intent to attack, and a shot on target 95 minutes earlier than they previously managed in a match
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21:15 Sat 12 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Very true, didn't think it were a penalty neither. Hope Brazil don't lose 5-0 but wouldn't be surprised with it being Louis Van Gaal's final match in charge too.

zantetsukenz
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21:19 Sat 12 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Van Gaal doesn't care about this match, wouldn't have surprised me if Brazil had won comfortably. But that's because I forgot David Luiz is playing CB, and he fancies giving away some more goals haha.

Here we go again! Brazil need a goal soon or there will be rioting after this if they get routed again
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21:44 Sat 12 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Netherlands might be lucky to not end up with a red card here, some nasty and naughty challenges flying about. (All while Robben is down the other end competing with Tom Daley)

Both sides now, I think the referee will bottle this but there is plenty of chances for cards and they all add up. Should be a red in this.

Edited at 22:20 Sat 12/07/14 (BST)
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10:03 Sun 13 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
I feel sorry for........PSG their two centre backs look lost and haven't a clue what to do. Monaco, Marseille, Lyon, St Etienne must be rubbing their hands with much anticipation.

Mourinho must be laughing his head off £50m lol
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10:11 Sun 13 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Brazil are never going to win anything again with a defense like that, I put a tenner on holland to win 3-0 at 14/1 as soon as they went 1-0 up so I was happy to see that 3rd go in!!
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10:24 Sun 13 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Nice one
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17:18 Sun 13 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Final Prediction: Germany 2-0 Argentina

Argentina wont be as easy to break down but eventually I think Germany will grab a decisive goal, probably near the end of the 90 mins.

Messi will be kept quiet as they try to adapt a similar approach like the Netherlands did. Can't see Argentina being too good, be interesting see if Perez or Di Maria starts. I would go with Perez but sure Di Maria will get the nod.

Germany Scorers: Kroos and Howedes.
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17:30 Sun 13 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
di maria is absolutely shocking has been all world cup.
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18:27 Sun 13 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
di maria is absolutely shocking has been all world cup.


I agree, I thought Perez were brilliant vs Holland.
zantetsukenz
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22:27 Sun 13 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Far too long but a goal for the Germans! 1-0 and 5 minutes left
zantetsukenz
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22:41 Sun 13 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Very Klose final, Schurrle not a classic


German clinical finishing beats the Argentines poor finishing.

Germany deserved it, they have been the best team. Congrats!
legend_pot
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23:00 Sun 13 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
messi just got the best player of the tournament award...awkward
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23:00 Sun 13 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Player of the Tournament: Messi - Are you having a laugh?
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23:03 Sun 13 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Player of the Tournament: Messi - Are you having a laugh?

*facepalm*
erigert
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00:20 Mon 14 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
Finally an albanian wins the world cup
cke1982
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14:49 Mon 14 Jul 14 (BST)  [Link]  
dunno why ppl are always talking about Messi, he aint been there best player by a far di maria been way better player.


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