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_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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13:22 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I agree Lee that's why reducing the maximum amount of players per team was mentioned. Some are so set in their ways they think they can dig their heels in and dictate what happens. League Runner needs to make a stance, keep to it and tell us all what's happening next season IMO, the sooner the better.

Those who don't like his ideas then simply don't play, no one's forcing anyone. Clans are voluntary and I think people forget that.

Shame to see BS fold tbh, more teams the merrier, more competitive teams the merrier too, so it's good to see Pds and Revs acquire some top quality players. I do happen to think that most will be in vain as IF and when Unbeatables decide to make their return they will all leave their temporary positions.

Uprising IF rumours are true about their new additions will obviously oppose anything which could disrupt their plans. I'm gonna enjoy Firestorm running them both close and on some occasions beating them both this next season.



Edited at 13:35 Fri 31/07/15 (BST)
erigert
erigert
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13:43 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Lol express yourself Ash. Everything u say must include Uprising, doesnt it?
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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13:49 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Lol, pretty self explanatory when you're the team and Captains opposing any potential changes/modifications.

Ever likely you're bound to be mentioned more than most.

erigert
erigert
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13:51 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
What are we opposing? Reducing clan sizes? Aprt from you i havent seen anyoneelse not opposing it so far lol
erigert
erigert
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13:52 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
And you were against reducing clan sizes a month ago too when u had 17 players in your team. Now that some have decided to leave u just change your idea lol
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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13:59 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
No I weren't. I said reduce to 14 if those surplus are used to make another team then I agreed with ab_rfc about gradually reducing them down to 12.

I've always agreed with if can encourage more teams then to do it. I have 16 players now, IF sides are reduced to 14 then I will release two, as long as everyone else follows suit.
klien
klien
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14:00 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
No I weren't. I said reduce to 14 if those surplus are used to make another team then I agreed with ab_rfc about gradually reducing them down to 12.

I've always agreed with if can encourage more teams then to do it. I have 16 players now, IF sides are reduced to 14 then I will release two, as long as everyone else follows suit.


Half of your team will end up inactive throughout the season anyway. So I cant see many new clans wanting to pick up dbno and off_white "the super sub"...
erigert
erigert
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14:03 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
No I weren't. I said reduce to 14 if those surplus are used to make another team then I agreed with ab_rfc about gradually reducing them down to 12.

I've always agreed with if can encourage more teams then to do it. I have 16 players now, IF sides are reduced to 14 then I will release two, as long as everyone else follows suit.


Half of your team will end up inactive throughout the season anyway. So I cant see many new clans wanting to pick up dbno and off_white "the super sub"...


Lmao
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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14:05 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Those wouldn't be the two released lol. Two very good players plus dbno will be online soon I have no concerns there.

As for half the team going inactive, I happen to disagree I reckon possibly 2/3 (maybe) might but we will be fine.

erigert
erigert
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14:06 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
If clan sizes will be reduced to 14 Uprising too will drop 2 non active players. But the sure thing is that no new clans will be created after all that. Snooker is tbe proof, they tried it and they failed.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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14:11 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Some are so set in their ways they think they can dig their heels in and dictate what happens. League Runner needs to make a stance, keep to it and tell us all what's happening next season IMO, the sooner the better.

Those who don't like his ideas then simply don't play, no one's forcing anyone. Clans are voluntary and I think people forget that.


your quick about blaming others but everyone can have an opinion, thats why its called a 'discussion' thread but guys go over the top sometimes. in life you would always get some which agree and some what disagree.

your right though Keith needs to make up his own mind and not be swayed in judgment by us members. he has asked our opinions though, some agree and others don't but what should be equal is respecting the players opinion even if its a different view.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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14:17 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
If clan sizes will be reduced to 14 Uprising too will drop 2 non active players. But the sure thing is that no new clans will be created after all that. Snooker is tbe proof, they tried it and they failed.


true, if anything we have gone down with each season, not up, i mean we have 5 clans and about 75% active out of 50 members (guesswork).

my personal opinion is keep it as it is at 16 players but i respect that some may want it to be reduced to try and increase clan numbers but i don't think it will work.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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14:18 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
an idea i have is like Futures Market where new players can try clan leagues and even take turns at captaining a clan. They would be entered in League but not have any points for or against and clans who face them don't receive any points towards the total and defaults would also not be done.

sort if like a friendly match but in a league setting.
faust
faust
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15:09 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
EVERYONE knows that Ash's opinions are totally motivated by self interest. The only way he can compete with the top teams is by culling his weaker players. My opinions are certainly not based on any alleged recruitment. We won half of what there was to win this season, and even if reduced to 12, we'd still be 1st or 2nd favorites. The fantasy that by releasing 2 players per clan, loads of new clans will appear is a nonsense. At 16 players, we have, or will be releasing 3 players altogether before the season starts. I've also had to turn down someone from EVERY single other clan this season, as well as a few free agents. I've offered people hard money that I can form a brand new team of 16 and none of the pro reduction campaigners have taken me up on it. There are plenty of players available if you know how to look, and will put the effort in.

Cutting clan sizes will see less players in the clan leagues. That is a fact. An absolute. Captains need motivation to keep recruiting, not a reason to get lax.

If there was a captain that has posted a new clan thread and was trying to recruit players, I have no doubts they'd have at least 12 within a week.
klien
klien
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15:25 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
EVERYONE knows that Ash's opinions are totally motivated by self interest. The only way he can compete with the top teams is by culling his weaker players. My opinions are certainly not based on any alleged recruitment. We won half of what there was to win this season, and even if reduced to 12, we'd still be 1st or 2nd favorites. The fantasy that by releasing 2 players per clan, loads of new clans will appear is a nonsense. At 16 players, we have, or will be releasing 3 players altogether before the season starts. I've also had to turn down someone from EVERY single other clan this season, as well as a few free agents. I've offered people hard money that I can form a brand new team of 16 and none of the pro reduction campaigners have taken me up on it. There are plenty of players available if you know how to look, and will put the effort in.

Cutting clan sizes will see less players in the clan leagues. That is a fact. An absolute. Captains need motivation to keep recruiting, not a reason to get lax.

If there was a captain that has posted a new clan thread and was trying to recruit players, I have no doubts they'd have at least 12 within a week.


I think i'd be willing to take up that wager to be honest, in terms of setting a clan up and posting a thread.

It is probably do-able, there are a lot of players that aren't in clans at the moment, the trick is persuading them to join.
faust
faust
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15:36 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  


I think i'd be willing to take up that wager to be honest, in terms of setting a clan up and posting a thread.

It is probably do-able, there are a lot of players that aren't in clans at the moment, the trick is persuading them to join.


£200? :)

12 players to start the season and finish the season with 16?
klien
klien
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15:38 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  


I think i'd be willing to take up that wager to be honest, in terms of setting a clan up and posting a thread.

It is probably do-able, there are a lot of players that aren't in clans at the moment, the trick is persuading them to join.


£200? :)

12 players to start the season and finish the season with 16?


I'm agreeing it is do-able... I think I could do it to be fair

I'm definitely not putting £200 against it
faust
faust
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16:20 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  


I think i'd be willing to take up that wager to be honest, in terms of setting a clan up and posting a thread.

It is probably do-able, there are a lot of players that aren't in clans at the moment, the trick is persuading them to join.


£200? :)

12 players to start the season and finish the season with 16?


I'm agreeing it is do-able... I think I could do it to be fair

I'm definitely not putting £200 against it


Ah sorry mate! Good luck if you do!
klien
klien
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16:22 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  


I think i'd be willing to take up that wager to be honest, in terms of setting a clan up and posting a thread.

It is probably do-able, there are a lot of players that aren't in clans at the moment, the trick is persuading them to join.


£200? :)

12 players to start the season and finish the season with 16?


I'm agreeing it is do-able... I think I could do it to be fair

I'm definitely not putting £200 against it


Ah sorry mate! Good luck if you do!


So you're not going to give me £200?
faust
faust
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16:27 Fri 31 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  


I think i'd be willing to take up that wager to be honest, in terms of setting a clan up and posting a thread.

It is probably do-able, there are a lot of players that aren't in clans at the moment, the trick is persuading them to join.


£200? :)

12 players to start the season and finish the season with 16?


I'm agreeing it is do-able... I think I could do it to be fair

I'm definitely not putting £200 against it


Ah sorry mate! Good luck if you do!


So you're not going to give me £200?


No! I think it's EASILY achievable! That's why I'm trying to get people to bet against ME! lol
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