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_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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19:11 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Sub is totally unnecessary - me and ferretlady have spoken and arranged to play. It either remains as it is or it simply doesn't get played - i'm not wasting my time or effort for nothing.

It's as simple as that. We have been communicating and come to an agreement to play - so stop messing about and just leave things as they are.

I refuse to play anyone other than the arranged opponent

* have our dialogue if need to see it.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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19:17 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'll review this to Keith as too much mind games for my liking.

In the past if a Sub has been allowed, i "think" that the opposition couldn't reverse it as their player was unchanged.

If that rule still exists and Gerard has less overall games than Ferret (This includes Played + Not Played) then Sub would stand, however if it doesn't exist or Gerard doesn't have less games then it won't stand.

Why can't people leave manipulation and mind games out of Clan Leagues?
_epicshot_
_epicshot_
Posts: 1,357
19:19 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'll review this to Keith as too much mind games for my liking.

In the past if a Sub has been allowed, i "think" that the opposition couldn't reverse it as their player was unchanged.

If that rule still exists and Gerard has less overall games than Ferret (This includes Played + Not Played) then Sub would stand, however if it doesn't exist or Gerard doesn't have less games then it won't stand.

Why can't people leave manipulation and mind games out of Clan Leagues?


So if gerardddd has less games the sub stands! I need popcorn
faust
faust
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19:24 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'll review this to Keith as too much mind games for my liking.

In the past if a Sub has been allowed, i "think" that the opposition couldn't reverse it as their player was unchanged.

If that rule still exists and Gerard has less overall games than Ferret (This includes Played + Not Played) then Sub would stand, however if it doesn't exist or Gerard doesn't have less games then it won't stand.

Why can't people leave manipulation and mind games out of Clan Leagues?


So if gerardddd has less games the sub stands! I need popcorn


Any player being so obstructive towards games being played should be removed. I can't think of another player on funkypool that exclusively want to play easy games. You certainly don't gain any respect doing so.
_gerardddd_
_gerardddd_
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19:26 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Its team 7 v me.. the sub included not 3v1.. 4v1
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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19:28 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'll review this to Keith as too much mind games for my liking.

In the past if a Sub has been allowed, i "think" that the opposition couldn't reverse it as their player was unchanged.

If that rule still exists and Gerard has less overall games than Ferret (This includes Played + Not Played) then Sub would stand, however if it doesn't exist or Gerard doesn't have less games then it won't stand.

Why can't people leave manipulation and mind games out of Clan Leagues?


So if gerardddd has less games the sub stands! I need popcorn


If the rule still stands but Keith can sort it, had barrel from both teams today and just trying to be impartial.
klien
klien
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19:38 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Ferretlady has 9 games in total.
Gerarddd has 9 games in total.

No sub is allowed and swaps can be reversed by the opposing team if its a stupid swap.

Argument over, stop playing stupid mind games and use your time and effort to actually get games played, please.
faust
faust
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19:47 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Just for the record, if any opposing teams better players want to swap to play me - I am more than happy to do so. Not a problem at all. I will make time day or night if needed.
triple_b
triple_b
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19:48 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
is my swap ok dgen ?
klien
klien
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19:51 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Just for the record, if any opposing teams better players want to swap to play me - I am more than happy to do so. Not a problem at all. I will make time day or night if needed.


I completely agree with you on the fact he shouldnt be hiding away from better players and doing everything he can just to play weak ones.. but the sheer fact is that, on this occasion, he is well within his right to refuse the sub...
The whole point of this league and random idea was to stop the stupid mind games.. yet about 4 or 5 people jumped on the bandwagon there for the sub.. not one of them had the common sense to count the fixtures like I did..

HAD ferret had 10 fixtures and gerarddd 8, I would have advocated the sub too... Wise up guys, more arguing like this will be the end of clans / teams for good.
klien
klien
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19:52 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
is my swap ok dgen ?


Your swap is OK as long as the other team agree and dont reverse it.. its up to them, basically.
_epicshot_
_epicshot_
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19:54 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Just for the record, if any opposing teams better players want to swap to play me - I am more than happy to do so. Not a problem at all. I will make time day or night if needed.


I completely agree with you on the fact he shouldnt be hiding away from better players and doing everything he can just to play weak ones.. but the sheer fact is that, on this occasion, he is well within his right to refuse the sub...
The whole point of this league and random idea was to stop the stupid mind games.. yet about 4 or 5 people jumped on the bandwagon there for the sub.. not one of them had the common sense to count the fixtures like I did..

HAD ferret had 10 fixtures and gerarddd 8, I would have advocated the sub too... Wise up guys, more arguing like this will be the end of clans / teams for good.


True the sub they made was just games, but the swap before that was needed and refused for no reason.
triple_b
triple_b
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19:54 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
is my swap ok dgen ?


Your swap is OK as long as the other team agree and dont reverse it.. its up to them, basically.


oh right i thought dgen had to give the go ahead
faust
faust
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19:54 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  


No sub is allowed and swaps can be reversed by the opposing team if its a stupid swap.


Where is that rule written down, as I didn't even know Keith had written down the rules for the current format. Also, what constitutes a "stupid swap"? Surely it's only stupid if it's a night player swapped in to play a day player - which hasn't happened. Vast majority of players left competing would happily play any swapped game at all. If people are going to throw down barriers to getting games played this season, we may as well all sack if off pronto.
klien
klien
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19:57 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  


No sub is allowed and swaps can be reversed by the opposing team if its a stupid swap.


Where is that rule written down, as I didn't even know Keith had written down the rules for the current format. Also, what constitutes a "stupid swap"? Surely it's only stupid if it's a night player swapped in to play a day player - which hasn't happened. Vast majority of players left competing would happily play any swapped game at all. If people are going to throw down barriers to getting games played this season, we may as well all sack if off pronto.


Sorry I'll make it more simple.. Swaps aren't allowed if the opposition doesn't agree to it.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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20:01 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
is my swap ok dgen ?


Your swap is OK as long as the other team agree and dont reverse it.. its up to them, basically.


oh right i thought dgen had to give the go ahead


yours is ok Sarah
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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20:07 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Just for the record, if any opposing teams better players want to swap to play me - I am more than happy to do so. Not a problem at all. I will make time day or night if needed.


on this occasion, he is well within his right to refuse the sub...
The whole point of this league and random idea was to stop the stupid mind games.. yet about 4 or 5 people jumped on the bandwagon there for the sub.. not one of them had the common sense to count the fixtures like I did..

HAD ferret had 10 fixtures and gerarddd 8, I would have advocated the sub too... Wise up guys, more arguing like this will be the end of clans / teams for good.


Agreed, I had no time to do much today as trying to juggle 2 games but completed my mission today so least for next 3 hours, i'm going to be less busy.

The Mind Games is the reason Subs were banned from the start and they're giving him a reason to outlaw Swaps as well and only Keith to verify them, Wouldn't surprise me if he took that route tbh.

Thanks for checking mate, made my job a bit easier but while it seems more clear, i've directed Keith to this thread for a final decision.
klien
klien
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20:09 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Keith should just let me be an assistant runner.. I couldnt care who plays who as long as this works.. and for this to work, the rules have to be followed, whether the majority like it or not.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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20:11 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Keith should just let me be an assistant runner.. I couldnt care who plays who as long as this works.. and for this to work, the rules have to be followed, whether the majority like it or not.


agree there, if you want to help, i can give you access to my sheet to update results with me? If you do, mail me your gmail

so far been a solo warrior so any help is appreciative
faust
faust
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20:11 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Keith should just let me be an assistant runner.. I couldnt care who plays who as long as this works.. and for this to work, the rules have to be followed, whether the majority like it or not.


If the majority don't like it though, you'll end up with the minority left playing. Which is not what anyone wants!
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