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beenjammin
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16:14 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  

Can you explain pal, don't fully understand, could we put in two teams of 8, or does it have to be in fours like 4 in A, 4 in B and 7 or 8 subs or could i have 8 in A and 8 in B?


Its pretty simple.

If you're fielding two teams and you have say 15 players, you'd put 7 in one team and 8 in the other.

The way I understood keith's post was:
If you're fielding two teams and you have say 15 players, you'd give him 2 lists of 4 players for the fixture set. The other 7 would be eligible to sub into either team.
_knightmare_
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16:15 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Yeah that's how I read it too beenjammin.
zantetsukenz
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16:15 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
4 vs 4 means teams should now be able to field two teams with no worries, and for clans that have the luxury of a full squad there is the option for 3, but this is just the extreme and I would expect only one or two to choose the three team option. That means a bigger league, and a lot more competition - should be a good thing .

@klien: 4 players per fixture will be in each side, the rest can play for either. In each fixture set you can only play for one side, but I each fixture you are free to change which players play for each side (like this season). You are only tied to a side for one set when you play a game for them.
buckjam
buckjam
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16:36 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I think its great. We wait with baited breath for the FCL and FBL format. Its so exiting i've wet my pants
faust
faust
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16:48 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I think its great. We wait with baited breath for the FCL and FBL format. Its so exiting i've wet my pants


Lucky you! There's now bonus points for incontinence!
derik_dalton
derik_dalton
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17:49 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I think its great. We wait with baited breath for the FCL and FBL format. Its so exiting i've wet my pants


Lucky you! There's now bonus points for incontinence!



Lucky us then we will win league just on my weekend dreams I'm on toilet alone
klien
klien
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18:19 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
4 vs 4 means teams should now be able to field two teams with no worries, and for clans that have the luxury of a full squad there is the option for 3, but this is just the extreme and I would expect only one or two to choose the three team option. That means a bigger league, and a lot more competition - should be a good thing .

@klien: 4 players per fixture will be in each side, the rest can play for either. In each fixture set you can only play for one side, but I each fixture you are free to change which players play for each side (like this season). You are only tied to a side for one set when you play a game for them.


But then whats the point in having three teams. If the C side qualifies for the semi's and finals, it should be those players playing the semi's and final, not mixing and matching with players from A and B who didn't qualify.

Edit: And whats meant to happen should FPD C get drawn against FPD A.... how is that meant to work when any player can play in any team.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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18:24 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
regarding edit, its up to captain if they want robots vs newbies or balanced vs balanced and subs could sub into both matches

Its basically a friendly to them though since all players qualify anyway. no competition aspect
klien
klien
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18:27 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
regarding edit, its up to captain if they want robots vs newbies or balanced vs balanced and subs could sub into both matches

Its basically a friendly to them though since all players qualify anyway. no competition aspect


You don't get what im saying. I find it unfair on the clan players that they could qualify all the way to the finals and then be replaced in the teams line up by "better" players just because those "better" players' team got knocked out in the semi's.

An example:
vixen played all the games for team C of professionals and team C made the final. Yet vixen is removed for the final and replaced with beenjammin (who played the whole Super League in team A) because been's team was knocked out in the semi's.

Doesn't seem a fair system that way.
_knightmare_
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18:34 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Surely that's down to the team Captain's discretion? IF a side has been eliminated then those players should be too ineligible for the next rounds, but depends on how they want to go about it.

I personally would eliminate the players from the team who have lost - increases the incentive for the whole team to try their best and be rewarded for doing exactly that.

Each to their own though.

* Choose the sides wisely, in other words all the top 4 in 1 team is not necessarily a great move,
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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18:51 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
yeah i get what you mean spoon, i prefer it that way too, the way it is set you have 2 or 3 chances of making the final, the way it is its almost like one team last season except you would have less chance
_knightmare_
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18:52 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
klien: Your new clan pic is like the new offside rule!
Lots of grey areas
faust
faust
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19:05 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
klien, despite having the option to chop and change, Uprising have pretty much stuck to separate teams every season, and our three teams won't be interchangeable this season. None of the ultras would want to move, and I'm guessing none of the unbeatables would either. I prefer each team having it's own identity, but if you was to strictly police that as a rule, there would be loads of defaults from the less reliable players.
hippesville
hippesville
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19:37 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I thought that each team in SL had a set of players to choose from and that was it, meaning that you could only play in that particular teams games??
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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19:40 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I thought that each team in SL had a set of players to choose from and that was it, meaning that you could only play in that particular teams games??

not now mate, even if one team is eliminated you still have full squad to choose
horse10000
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21:46 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  

Can you explain pal, don't fully understand, could we put in two teams of 8, or does it have to be in fours like 4 in A, 4 in B and 7 or 8 subs or could i have 8 in A and 8 in B?


Its pretty simple.

If you're fielding two teams and you have say 15 players, you'd put 7 in one team and 8 in the other.

The way I understood keith's post was:
If you're fielding two teams and you have say 15 players, you'd give him 2 lists of 4 players for the fixture set. The other 7 would be eligible to sub into either team.


Correct

The only other thing that may change is a player that was put in team 'a' for the fixture had not played a game for team 'a' in that fixture set and was subbed out, he could still play for team 'b' or team 'c' (if applicable to that clan) in that fixture set. if he has played one game for team 'a' in that fixture set he is no longer available to team 'b' or team 'c' for that fixture set.

In the next fixture set he could be playing for team 'b' from the start, no player is fixed to a team, it is up to the captains how they utilise their players across all the fixtures and all their teams.
hippesville
hippesville
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22:04 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I thought that each team in SL had a set of players to choose from and that was it, meaning that you could only play in that particular teams games??

not now mate, even if one team is eliminated you still have full squad to choose


Prefer original way. Means more to each individual team as each Clan has 2
Teams with different names......what's the point???

Does this then mean that......
Pros or Uprising, whatever, get for example 2 fixtures.
Oppo Team A are better than Oppo Team B
James looks at this, picks his best 4 from his entire team of 16 players for Team A and his next best for Team B.
This would then be ongoing throughout League Format?

Put me right if I'm wrong, and if so, Apologies :s
hippesville
hippesville
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22:09 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  

Can you explain pal, don't fully understand, could we put in two teams of 8, or does it have to be in fours like 4 in A, 4 in B and 7 or 8 subs or could i have 8 in A and 8 in B?


Its pretty simple.

If you're fielding two teams and you have say 15 players, you'd put 7 in one team and 8 in the other.

The way I understood keith's post was:
If you're fielding two teams and you have say 15 players, you'd give him 2 lists of 4 players for the fixture set. The other 7 would be eligible to sub into either team.


Correct

The only other thing that may change is a player that was put in team 'a' for the fixture had not played a game for team 'a' in that fixture set and was subbed out, he could still play for team 'b' or team 'c' (if applicable to that clan) in that fixture set. if he has played one game for team 'a' in that fixture set he is no longer available to team 'b' or team 'c' for that fixture set.

In the next fixture set he could be playing for team 'b' from the start, no player is fixed to a team, it is up to the captains how they utilise their players across all the fixtures and all their teams.


So ya can hold back on 3 or 4 of yer better players in Team List, see who yer fixtures are against, and utilise the better players held back for subbing into the more difficult matches.

Ye olde Tactical Subbing
hippesville
hippesville
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22:11 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I think the SL would mean a LOT more if ALL teams worked the way Faust has always done it, which was and should still be the way
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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22:13 Thu 20 Aug 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Hippies, even if your best lose, if one team survives those that lost can still play so while one team is alive you have 4 players in each team and whatever subs to make 16
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