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vixen_xox
vixen_xox
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13:20 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
^as far as I'm aware Keith is the one who will make the ultimate decision, so this all may be a bit of a moot point.
erigert
erigert
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13:34 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
As ive said before i would be interested to take over for 1 season, but i would need some help with the website, as im not very good at it. So maybe dgen can help me at that

And also 1 or 2 people who update scores would be welcomed.

But if im not wanted, i dont have any problem with it
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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13:43 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Yep down to Keith, i'd do Excel (making automatic to make updating easier) and can help with site (would need log in details though) but not keen on updating.

Keith makes final choice though which is good
vixen_xox
vixen_xox
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14:09 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
But if Keiths stepping down, is it really his decision? And I'd be more than happy with eri/dgen, as I'm sure most people would.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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14:15 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'd rather Keith decide as we all have an opinion and could argue all day on this and that but if Keith decides its final and he can put in someone trustworthy and right for the job
punkpoet
punkpoet
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14:25 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Why are you trying to make him bite in the first place.

Mine and yourself's constant bickering and trying to make eachother "bite" is what got us in this situation to begin with. Don't continue to try and make others look bad by antagonizing them on a thread where they are trying to correct the mistakes of myself and yours. (others as well I might add).

Just leave the arguments where they ought to be. If you have nothing to contribute in terms of finding a league runner(s), then why bother posting on here.


actually didnt intend for him to bite but if he does...
and my bickering??? hmmm.
also i did post what i thi k you lot should do give it to ash and get him and dgen to do it.
make clans smaller.
have rules against bickering and unneeded posts. ive said this alot folks...
vixen_xox
vixen_xox
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14:28 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Why are you trying to make him bite in the first place.

Mine and yourself's constant bickering and trying to make eachother "bite" is what got us in this situation to begin with. Don't continue to try and make others look bad by antagonizing them on a thread where they are trying to correct the mistakes of myself and yours. (others as well I might add).

Just leave the arguments where they ought to be. If you have nothing to contribute in terms of finding a league runner(s), then why bother posting on here.


actually didnt intend for him to bite but if he does...
and my bickering??? hmmm.
also i did post what i thi k you lot should do give it to ash and get him and dgen to do it.
make clans smaller.
have rules against bickering and unneeded posts. ive said this alot folks...


Give it to Ash!? And you say you're not trying to get people to bite
punkpoet
punkpoet
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14:32 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Why are you trying to make him bite in the first place.

Mine and yourself's constant bickering and trying to make eachother "bite" is what got us in this situation to begin with. Don't continue to try and make others look bad by antagonizing them on a thread where they are trying to correct the mistakes of myself and yours. (others as well I might add).

Just leave the arguments where they ought to be. If you have nothing to contribute in terms of finding a league runner(s), then why bother posting on here.


actually didnt intend for him to bite but if he does...
and my bickering??? hmmm.
also i did post what i thi k you lot should do give it to ash and get him and dgen to do it.
make clans smaller.
have rules against bickering and unneeded posts. ive said this alot folks...


Give it to Ash!? And you say you're not trying to get people to bite


hahaha dee im being serious.... honestly... stop laughing.
look who cares about clans the most?
Ash.
im not saying he should do it alone dgen and eri would be good fits as co runners but ashs desire and dgens ability with making posting scores easier along with eri and maybe zante would be a good fit.
thats what id do :)
vixen_xox
vixen_xox
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14:40 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
But it doesn't help that the majority of the decisions put onto the runners shoulders usually involve Ash/Phoenix (no offense to Ash, I like him as a person but I can separate the personal from clans). And there's been a lot of arguments over decisions that need to be made involving them.

I think Ash's passion is very much centered around his own clan and I'm not sure he'd stay impartial, or wouldn't take advantage of the position should he be the main runner.

If it's a few people who all have the same amount of "power" regarding decisions, then that's different.
punkpoet
punkpoet
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14:44 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
fair points dee and yeah i always felt 2 or 3 runners were the best. no offence to horse or chris. its just a big load to take on.
the__priest
the__priest
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15:25 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
conclusion

to the above, not a lot of common sense
this decision and who steps forward could be
the making of the leagues as they are

or could easily spell the end of them

some names being suggested are farcical, but some are maybe worth a shot

but proven bias in some, should be seriously remembered

the last 2 runners along with janmb
have set the bar very high
and where it should be, the leagues cant settle for second best, or indeed go back

the above names are probably the best ever runners
is there another

this needs to be thought out
very carefully and not just by Keith
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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15:38 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
It has nothing to do with having power or any authority over anyone. Rules are already set and most if not everyone as much as we try to exploit or find security holes respect and adhere to them.

Could some be relaxed a little and tweaked of course they can but for the benefits of everyone not the detriment. Fairness needs to be the foundation to any such rules and cover all possible eventualities too.

I have enjoyed updating the scores and team lists etc and been happy to help out. IF I can be of any more use then I will try and happily offer my assistance. Have I anywhere posted I'd like to RULE and be IN CHARGE?

IF the truth be told WE are ALL in charge of the destiny with clans and our teams. IF we all want them to continue then we should embrace anyone who offered their helping hand and grasp on to it for as long as possible.

It's not a competition for power, that's the last thing I want or need. I have my team, delighted with how things are going and obviously I want more as there's always room for improvement. Clans have been great for my time on this site and I cannot and will not envisage the site without them. So it's up to Keith what route he takes and I'll respect either way as long as Clans and the interest of fairness is maintained for everyone.
klien
klien
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18:25 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Might as well put me in charge, Keith

Edit: I might make a good updating minion like

Edited at 18:35 Wed 16/03/16 (GMT)
fatmikee
fatmikee
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21:09 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Leaving the Clans in the hands of some on like Nightmare is like leaving your chickens with Kernel Sanders lol.

Edited at 21:14 Wed 16/03/16 (GMT)
buckjam
buckjam
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22:07 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Leaving the Clans in the hands of some on like Nightmare is like leaving your chickens with Kernel Sanders lol.


Now after all you were saying last night do you honestly believe that that comment was beneficial to finding someone who is willing to help keep the league going?
horse10000
horse10000
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22:10 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Further to all the posts regarding who will be running the leagues next season.

I have been approached by _knightmare_ requesting that i have a re-think and reconsider my decision regarding quitting the leagues. He believes that having the leagues run by someone else other than a moderator would be to the detriment of the leagues.

We have had a discussion and he is willing to do all the schedules, posting requesting team lists, updating subs, results, tables, website etc. He is looking to do this and will try and get a couple others to assist him (dgeneratio who has excel live update lists that will assist and hopefully make it easier etc) If others wish to put names forward to assist, please feel free to message, i have always been willing to allow any player as long as they have played clan leagues for a couple of seasons the chance to help if they want to and i would like this to continue as i believe that everyone should be given the chance.

I am happy with this new set up and believe he will do a decent job as since he asked to help this season he has been very good, which is probably just as well as i lost my best helper (sarah) in the process when i accepted him to assist.

I would remain as the overall league runner and all other decisions would be taken by me and only me just exactly the same as currently. New rules, allowance of newly signed players like this season with cues brothers, all defaults etc.

So from all the clans points of view you should see no difference other than ash requesting team lists as opposed to me the majority of changes would be in the background and free up my time, which i really don't have to continue as current set up. I would still assist and if for whatever reason ash can not cope i could always step back in but hopefully this would never need to happen.

If captains can advise / post that they are happy with this we can move forward, if anyone has any issues or wants a change please feel free to voice your opinions also.

Thanks
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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22:18 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Two Questions i have pal.

a) when does season end? just so i know time scale of my excel work
b) ash promised me a big salary for joining but he hasn't paid me yet
buckjam
buckjam
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22:20 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
More than happy with that. I will help out where i can especially as i will be only running 2 teams next season so will have a bit more tiime. Wether others like it or not Ash is by far the most qualified to organize the 'paperwork' side of it and will keep it all up to date.

As far as im concerned it couldnt have worked out better. Thanks for hanging about Keith.
horse10000
horse10000
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22:22 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Two Questions i have pal.

a) when does season end? just so i know time scale of my excel work
b) ash promised me a big salary for joining but he hasn't paid me yet


Season has at least 5 or 6 weeks to go and then there is usually a 2 or 3 week break so between 7 and 9 weeks!!!

If it isn't ready we can run with what is already there anyway.

Same salary as me so don't know why you are complaining
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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22:22 Wed 16 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Yep Ash has done good updating this season and Eri for Golden Cue also. Glad Keith is staying also
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