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i_am_noob
i_am_noob
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09:12 Fri 8 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
So it allows players to sit on ranks forever,bit daft.


Only if you have a rank over a certain quality, it used to be everyone would sit on 800.0 but now if ranking isn't really high, you can lose Pro Status


it used to be a lot easier to get higher rank too though.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
Posts: 38,097
11:03 Fri 8 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
So it allows players to sit on ranks forever,bit daft.


Only if you have a rank over a certain quality, it used to be everyone would sit on 800.0 but now if ranking isn't really high, you can lose Pro Status


it used to be a lot easier to get higher rank too though.


Agreed, on a VERY old ranking system on Snooker i won vs ste_efc in Original and won 20 points, i'm sure the Rank Difference was 50-100 to him too
_psmon_
_psmon_
Posts: 1,359
17:25 Fri 8 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
if friendlies went the site would go even deeper into disrepair
the__priest
the__priest
Posts: 7,974
21:30 Fri 8 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
advertise
on the billboards at premier league games

only an idea
if you have a spare £80k

for 15 seconds
the__priest
the__priest
Posts: 7,974
21:54 Fri 8 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
the worst thing that's happened to this site
is people trying to get more ranked games
you got rid of micros with tournament points
in an effort to get ranked games

IT FAILED

did you bring them back
NO

Micros had 8 players in nearly every game
so who were they hurting ?

tournaments now after the change have 8 players on average
no extra ranked games

admit you got it WRONG

did you try to amend it and put it back
NOT A CHANCE

it was a total failure

it kills me that you listened to players who
1) are hardly online
2) didn't play ranked games
3) didn't play in tournaments
4) you changed the lot to suit the 1% of the 5000 members


now lets get rid of this and that
what next

why not just close the door and turn the light off


this site had many more players and members
before these changes

surely you've had long enough to see that it was wrong to do it

why not put it back
and leave it alone

yes logging in and java is an issue
but surely look after members that are on now

clans and the crap is the biggest problem on this site
its never been dealt with

we've gone from 12 + clans to 5
does that not tell you the biggest issue on this site

ask yourself this where have all the clan players gone
did they leave because of micros (hardly)

tournaments now are the only true place you can play ranked games
the__priest
the__priest
Posts: 7,974
21:54 Fri 8 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
any feed back is welcome

however facts are facts

this site now has stabilised for over 6 months
with just under 5000 members

encourage it please
_gerardddd_
_gerardddd_
Posts: 1,753
22:18 Fri 8 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
the worst thing that's happened to this site
is people trying to get more ranked games
you got rid of micros with tournament points
in an effort to get ranked games

IT FAILED

did you bring them back
NO

Micros had 8 players in nearly every game
so who were they hurting ?

tournaments now after the change have 8 players on average
no extra ranked games

admit you got it WRONG

did you try to amend it and put it back
NOT A CHANCE

it was a total failure

it kills me that you listened to players who
1) are hardly online
2) didn't play ranked games
3) didn't play in tournaments
4) you changed the lot to suit the 1% of the 5000 members


now lets get rid of this and that
what next

why not just close the door and turn the light off


this site had many more players and members
before these changes

surely you've had long enough to see that it was wrong to do it

why not put it back
and leave it alone

yes logging in and java is an issue
but surely look after members that are on now

clans and the crap is the biggest problem on this site
its never been dealt with

we've gone from 12 + clans to 5
does that not tell you the biggest issue on this site

ask yourself this where have all the clan players gone
did they leave because of micros (hardly)

tournaments now are the only true place you can play ranked games


Agree with this
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
Posts: 38,097
22:32 Fri 8 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
love craig and his rants

agree micros don't hurt but disagree that you get 8 in most when some normal tournaments have a couple at best.

wouldn't hurt bringing them back BUT people used to use Micros to win day events when it should be the larger events like Marathon that wins the day event.

it kills me that you listened to players who
1) are hardly online
2) didn't play ranked games
3) didn't play in tournaments
4) you changed the lot to suit the 1% of the 5000 members


^ laugh at this everytime, just because you're Premium or you enter tournaments doesn't mean your higher up the ladder. Everyone can have an opinion, positive or negative.

love it when you say it though but i'm an honesty guy, i don't pretend to like tournaments, i don't, reason? no prestige, admin could add 25 marathons but wouldn't interest me. 5 Sec Tournaments would get me playing in some as i love 5 sec matches.
the__priest
the__priest
Posts: 7,974
22:52 Fri 8 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
love craig and his rants

agree micros don't hurt but disagree that you get 8 in most when some normal tournaments have a couple at best.

wouldn't hurt bringing them back BUT people used to use Micros to win day events when it should be the larger events like Marathon that wins the day event.

it kills me that you listened to players who
1) are hardly online
2) didn't play ranked games
3) didn't play in tournaments
4) you changed the lot to suit the 1% of the 5000 members


^ laugh at this everytime, just because you're Premium or you enter tournaments doesn't mean your higher up the ladder. Everyone can have an opinion, positive or negative.

love it when you say it though but i'm an honesty guy, i don't pretend to like tournaments, i don't, reason? no prestige, admin could add 25 marathons but wouldn't interest me. 5 Sec Tournaments would get me playing in some as i love 5 sec matches.


everything I said is fact James
micros were always full
btw you don't play tornos
so input NOT allowed BUMP

marathons should win day events says James
who doesn't even play them
lol

another BUMP

Edited at 19:58 Fri 08/04/16 (BST)
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
Posts: 38,097
23:12 Fri 8 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
I know i don't play them,

107 Orig Tournies

http://www.funkysnooker.com/thread/9291/congratulations-dgeneratio-on-100-original-tournaments#654555

100 4 years ago so 7 wins in 4 years, thats less than two a year so proves in 4 years now much i don't play now.

I go back to my point.

it kills me that you listened to players who
1) are hardly online
2) didn't play ranked games
3) didn't play in tournaments
4) you changed the lot to suit the 1% of the 5000 members

^ laugh at this everytime, just because you're Premium or you enter tournaments doesn't mean your higher up the ladder. Everyone can have an opinion, positive or negative.

^ Fact is also that in most sports people care more about the larger events, Masters Golf, World Championship, Wrestlemania, Wimbledon and other things. They don't watch PTC's in the same light so should be the same here.

By all means bring Micros back but the Tournapoints should be skewed more to the Marathons and even a Ranking Bonus for incentive.

Micro/Speed - x1 Rank, 20 tournapoints points per entry
Normal - x1.5 Rank, 40 tournapoints points per entry
Marathon - x2 Rank, 80 tournapoints points per entry

so puts in line with other sports, Larger Events matter more
the__priest
the__priest
Posts: 7,974
23:30 Fri 8 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
your missing the point
you don't play in them

with all due respect if you don't play them
it shouldn't bother you one way or other
so tbh why have an opinion

it was people who didn't play in them last time
who goosed it for loads of people

admin listened
look at the results since

speaks volumes
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
Posts: 38,097
23:39 Fri 8 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
your missing the point
you don't play in them

with all due respect if you don't play them
it shouldn't bother you one way or other
so tbh why have an opinion

it was people who didn't play in them last time
who goosed it for loads of people

admin listened
look at the results since

speaks volumes


so? i could say you don't play football or do boxing professionally for real so shouldn't have an opinion, could say you're not a priest so shouldn't be using the name.

just because you're Premium or you enter tournaments doesn't mean your higher up the ladder. Everyone can have an opinion, positive or negative.

i'm allowed an opinion and so are you, You want Micros back, i say you can have them back so what is the issue? because i want day medals to be earned through larger events.

i'm just after some "prestige" back in tournaments
hippesville
hippesville
Posts: 13,534
00:29 Sat 9 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
No need to have a go or tell someone their opinion doesn't count!......otherwise you've no right to comment on Clans if you've stopped!!
Actually agree Micros were not doing any harm.
Think dgen makes a good point about Tournament Points.

Time people on here learned to be able to voice their opinion and agree to disagree. THAT has an impact on players sticking around.....or just continue with criticising and pointing the finger.

In all honesty, I think it's the way that people grow up that is affecting funky. A lot of the people on here would have been more adventurous as kids ie not plugged in to a console/laptop/PC etc......from a very early age. Sucked into a far more advanced world of technologically progressive gaming.
It actually scares me thro work at how many kids under 11 are playing GTA and all those other 18 games.......scared for what the future brings, but I'll stop there as I seem to be going off on one lol

Play, have fun and enjoy......and keep practising
mich
mich
Posts: 184
11:58 Sat 9 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
I don't think personally that people leave the site due to clans, tournaments clan games etc etc.

People leave the site for personaly reasons too you know, having a family, meeting new people, moving on that type of thing.

Back before clans there was constantly 100+ members on the site back in the days when there was a tournament like every 3 hours. It was when tournaments became ranked everyone started leaving. Then when tournapoints came in more did.

Micros got brought in and more people left, now micros got kicked out more are leaving and moaning.

The problem is not with the admins who are trying to save the site, it is with the advertising and the lack of forward thinking technology wise. Most other games can be played via social media and on tablets ipads phones etc, this can't. Most other games have adverts on other games to bring new members, this doesn't. This is the main problem, with old members bound to leave at some point in their time here and no new members to replace then there is gonna be a time where the decline is so bad as it is now.

Only problem is I think it is probably too far gone now to repair.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
Posts: 38,097
13:15 Sat 9 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
The problem is not with the admins who are trying to save the site, it is with the advertising and the lack of forward thinking technology wise. Most other games can be played via social media and on tablets ipads phones etc, this can't. Most other games have adverts on other games to bring new members, this doesn't. This is the main problem, with old members bound to leave at some point in their time here and no new members to replace then there is gonna be a time where the decline is so bad as it is now.

Only problem is I think it is probably too far gone now to repair.


Agree, I have tried advertising on FB but hasn't worked, i rarely use Twitter so i can't advertise there. Problem for me also lately is Java. New members aren't going to read the forum so use latest java available at the time, see security, freezes etc and most would use Chrome, Opera etc and they no longer support Java so may not download browsers to play.

I feel only Nick can save this site, We can advertise all we like but if we did and say.

"Play the Best 2D Pool game on the net, Funkypool!

It has tournaments daily, Has a Social Background etc etc"

They come on and find out about Java, How come you can't fix, Owner isn't around, "I'm leaving, False Advertising" and if you add "Need Old Java to play" then thats negative as well.

We need Nick more than ever now i feel, hopefully he is safe and comes back soon or sites going to keep losing numbers
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
Posts: 38,097
13:32 Sat 9 Apr 16 (BST)  [Link]  
I also think we need an announcement in chat room.

"New Java experiences crashes, would recommend that you use Java Version 8.31 which can be found here:
*Inserts Link*"

This isn't much but at least people who don't read forum know what is going on and use at own risk etc.

I think Admin can do this without Nick so it is a start at least until Nick can fix permanently
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13:38 Thu 15 Sep 16 (BST)  [Link]  
onua still resting up with no reduction on his rank,because his highest was achieved when game was easier.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
Posts: 38,097
14:14 Thu 15 Sep 16 (BST)  [Link]  
onua still resting up with no reduction on his rank,because his highest was achieved when game was easier.


Only current rank is reduced mate, Highest Rank stays forever, only time it didn't is when Nick did a Factory Reset of all rankings to make ranking harder
Deleted User
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14:20 Thu 15 Sep 16 (BST)  [Link]  
His rank has not moved though hes not been on for 5 months.
Accounts that aren't active should be deleted.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
Posts: 38,097
14:24 Thu 15 Sep 16 (BST)  [Link]  
its only 13 months when it has been deleted. I prompt janmb every 10 months to log in so he doesn't lose his stats

5) Daily reduction: a small amount is reduced from the top player's ranking.
To prevent player's simply retiring when they are top of the rankings half a point is chopped of their ranking daily.
The ranking is reduced to a residual point dependent on the maximum rank you have achieved. For every point you have scored above 750, the residual point increases by a quarter. Examples, someone who reached 950 would reduce until 800, 850 would reduce until 775, and 754 would reduce to 751.
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