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dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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07:34 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
So this is like some kind of vote? Well i vote no. And that's all I have to say on this matter.

He was recently banned, and has been able to return sooner then expected. He should thank his lucky stars that he has been allowed to return. However hearing why he was banned in the first place. He shouldn't be allowed to play for clans anymore.

My personal view ^


Agree with Phil, Rules are Rules, He should wait like everyone else and to answer Huts question.

Hoping Keith changes his mind as it's nearly end of season and allowing Craig to play won't hurt anyone.

Craig is a good player so it can affect winning or losing a Killer so it can hurt the opposition.

Craig in Leagues? don't get me started, Okay he didn't cheat but for the reason he was banned would make me rethink things. I'm leaving anyway so luckily i won't have to draw him in a match and tbh i'd rather not play him.

Keith is the runner though.
zantetsukenz
zantetsukenz
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13:28 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
No: Rules are Rules.
Also on Killer news: DFE should be awarded 6-0 due to Uprising failing to produce a team tonight. None of this, let's rearrange nonsense....would any other team get this treatment....I think not.


It's not entirely black and white.

They could be awarded but the prerogative has always been given to the opposing clan in killer (or the referee if there has been one). They allowed a later time to give us a chance to get the game to happen and every single clan has been allowed extra time in the past beyond the set time (and a few have also not been allowed the extra time, which shows it's up to the opponent really). We did get one or two online, but this wasn't to DFE's convenience who had already unanimously offered a replay.

Obviously should a replay not be accepted then a full default award should go to DFE. However, though that would be fair to Uprising and DFE, it would be unfair to every other team. How well and hard are a team going to have to work to get a whitewash over Uprising? It completely compromises the whole killer league as there isn't really a way to balance that default score out for the other teams.

Currently it remains unplayed, the choice was offered to DFE as to rearrange or default win and they chose the former. The rules are clear on the initial arranging, but not on if there is a problem. Any other clan would receive the same treatment as is always the case in killer, it is down to the opponents wishes. They did not wish to be rewarded for the mistake of Uprising and for only doing what the other clans did which was showing up. For the fairness of the league it is very admirable, and Uprising need to accept whatever time is suitable for DFE at whatever notice they require. Presumably this is being done before the other games are played, so either tonight or tomorrow.

It hasn't given an unfair advantage to either side, to play an honest game and score from that rather than give one side a 6-0 against what I imagine are most peoples favourites to win again. It may be the difference between the best team winning the league (either uprising on points or another clan on frame difference), or it may be that DFE are robbed the chance to prove it is them who is best if both they and Uprising won every other game so they won by default.

The best interest for the league is to play the game, and I think most see that. The default win is there to take though.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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16:01 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Plus if we won group stage (not that it matters as everyone qualifies anyway i think) then it would be flawed as we took a default against the best clan.

If it happened twice in a row i "may" have thought about it but i think Uprising generally forgot about the game (happens to best of us) so deserves a second opportunity and they're definitely aware now.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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16:07 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
While i'm here in Killer and Super League i want to ask what the bases for Group Stage are as you can qualify even finishing in last place where as before you had top 4 for Semis and 1st picks the opponent then the standings mean something and Killer could be Top 2 = Final and others in Preliminary with 3 players each to compensate. Or 5 per clan if 3rd-5th.

Just a query and know i mentioned a few seasons ago as well so feels like a practice match
time_to_funk
time_to_funk
Posts: 10
17:32 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Falling asleep reading this tosh regarding the killer replay.

If phoenix had been the opponents and not shown up I can just imagine the posts from DFE demanding the win and horse would be right there backing them. Instead we get this righteous garbage about playing fair and it's confounded by the fact that the league runner (ironic) is on the team that didn't show...

As for Craig....Well I would take a guess that none of you know the main reason he was banned. The only people that know are Craig, myself and crazzybanman. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the banning was unethical and processed by somebody that would have been rubbing his hands together as he clicked his mouse on Craig's account.

It doesn't surprise me though - Easy for a man that doesn't play at all to ban a man that devoted 1000's of hours to this website and contributed financially. So my advice to those that have been posting how the know the reason or the content - Keep quiet! Unless admin are now taking the time to inform demoted mods such as vixen and dgen there is no way they can know, regardless of both saying they do...

Anyway, you guys keep arguing between yourselves and blaming technology for the reason all those that found this gem of a site decided to leave. I guess that's easier than looking inwards after your latest spat on the forum because that's what is truly putting people off. The same 'lot' over and over and over and over...

*Yawns*
lolumadbro
lolumadbro
Posts: 1,385
18:11 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Check the messages on this account....You may be VERY interested!

Password is rundgenrun

Messages show two members openly shielding a perm banned member aka ummagumma. These two members, if removed from clan leagues, would make Funkypool a better place and it is against the rules to post for or shield a banned member. The people involved are _knightmare_ and the__priest.

Enjoy!


Hes defending Craigs banning and talking about him like they are mates yet this is the same tool that sent the above message to people trying his best to get him banned LOL.
jacko
jacko
Posts: 172
18:47 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
i have never asked to play in the Killer games
and to be frank i dont give a jot


as for my banning
im more than intrested to find out who knows what tbh ?
and who told who first

people appear to have a lot to say
and appear to know the reason

that surprises me more than ever

because i can tell you now
i have never been told, anything about umgamma
nothing at all and thats a fact

saying shielding a banned member, really

shadows i will say know more and many others
to tedious to name


same people who broke data protection
rules on this site and distributed false information, seem to get away with murder

http://www.funkypool.com/privacy

and it also appears to have happened again


very intrested to hear back from admin
and yes ive asked them too

as for banning me from clans
please enlighten me

i dont give a jot there tbh either
however, id like to know your reasons
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
Posts: 37,934
19:18 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Falling asleep reading this tosh regarding the killer replay.

If phoenix had been the opponents and not shown up I can just imagine the posts from DFE demanding the win and horse would be right there backing them. Instead we get this righteous garbage about playing fair and it's confounded by the fact that the league runner (ironic) is on the team that didn't show...

*Yawns*


That's where you're wrong sunshine, least for me anyway, i mean its only Killer, not like it is FCL or anything...
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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19:20 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
As for Craig....Well I would take a guess that none of you know the main reason he was banned. The only people that know are Craig, myself and crazzybanman. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the banning was unethical and processed by somebody that would have been rubbing his hands together as he clicked his mouse on Craig's account.

It doesn't surprise me though - Easy for a man that doesn't play at all to ban a man that devoted 1000's of hours to this website and contributed financially. So my advice to those that have been posting how the know the reason or the content - Keep quiet! Unless admin are now taking the time to inform demoted mods such as vixen and dgen there is no way they can know, regardless of both saying they do...

Anyway, you guys keep arguing between yourselves and blaming technology for the reason all those that found this gem of a site decided to leave. I guess that's easier than looking inwards after your latest spat on the forum because that's what is truly putting people off. The same 'lot' over and over and over and over...

*Yawns*


so you didn't send messages making your profile public and say hey look Craigs done this, log in and find out. You wanted him banned or why would you make it public? If not then Craig would never have been banned.

Logic...
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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19:23 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
because i can tell you now
i have never been told, anything about umgamma
nothing at all and thats a fact

saying shielding a banned member, really


so why did umma want you banned? he made the profile public so anyone could sign in and was you who got banned and a second who didn't.

If he never made i public, you wouldn't have been banned in the first place.
jacko
jacko
Posts: 172
19:26 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
because i can tell you now
i have never been told, anything about umgamma
nothing at all and thats a fact

saying shielding a banned member, really


so why did umma want you banned? he made the profile public so anyone could sign in and was you who got banned and a second who didn't.

If he never made i public, you wouldn't have been banned in the first place.


well im pleased youve admitted to knowing ty

because ive never seen anything FACT

so your one of the ones James
thankyou for that
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
Posts: 37,934
19:38 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
admitted to what? i never logged in as thought it was bogus, few days later, you got banned, sounds fishy and your name was in those messages.
jacko
jacko
Posts: 172
19:45 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
admitted to what? i never logged in as thought it was bogus, few days later, you got banned, sounds fishy and your name was in those messages.


what messages James ... do tell
cos im sure i dont

and to ban me from clans too
hmmmmmmmm

must have been bad
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
Posts: 37,934
19:46 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
what messages James ... do tell
cos im sure i dont

and to ban me from clans too
hmmmmmmmm

must have been bad


from what i was told its bad
jacko
jacko
Posts: 172
19:48 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
what messages James ... do tell
cos im sure i dont

and to ban me from clans too
hmmmmmmmm

must have been bad


from what i was told its bad


pleased you told me you were told

anyway thanks for that
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
Posts: 37,934
19:49 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
of course i'm not directly involved
horse10000
horse10000
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Posts: 9,902
22:41 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
Killer

Uprising v DFE

horse10000
thegame26

v

lolumadbro
_epicshot_
northman
vixen_xox
hippesville

Overall 3 points to uprising

Final order

horse10000
vixen_xox
lolumadbro

3-3 for frame count

A big thanks for DFE on being so sporting as they have been, maybe a lesson for a number of clan players in there.
horse10000
horse10000
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22:43 Wed 19 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  


Edited at 22:53 Wed 19/10/16 (BST)
vixen_xox
vixen_xox
Posts: 2,327
21:42 Tue 25 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  



It doesn't surprise me though - Easy for a man that doesn't play at all to ban a man that devoted 1000's of hours to this website and contributed financially. So my advice to those that have been posting how the know the reason or the content - Keep quiet! Unless admin are now taking the time to inform demoted mods such as vixen and dgen there is no way they can know, regardless of both saying they do...



I never said I did. I said if It's what I
think it is then he should be banned. And that was the first and last thing I said about it because I don't care whether he's banned or not. Or whether he plays killer or not. Or whether he's in the league or not.

It is kind of hilarious that you're speaking of him admirably for devoting hours of his time to the site yet when it's someone you dislike who's on here a lot then they're "pathetic and have no life".

And everyone knows it was you who handed out the password so people could see Craig communicating with you, nobody on here got him banned other than you. You're just backtracking now he's back because he was the only one left on here who thought you were semi normal.
kirk
kirk
Posts: 828
12:13 Wed 26 Oct 16 (BST)  [Link]  
I'm sorry but if you can show me an uncorrupt person on here then i'l show you an idiot. Everyone does it and it's just the way it is. If people want to try and bend round the rules with players i say let them and let admin deal with it. There used to be a waiting period for new accounts anyway.
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