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jimfaebod
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09:04 Wed 9 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Congratulations to Donald J Trump on his emphatic victory over Senator Hillary Clinton
dgeneratio
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12:32 Wed 9 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
From what i heard, Neither deserved the Presidency, Shame you can't vote to keep the current President in charge which was Obama along with the two choices as seemed like voting for Kang or Kong off Simpsons where either way, it will end bad.
_knightmare_
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15:38 Wed 9 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
6 hours since the original post....only 1 reply...say's it all.
Also extremely concerning yet somewhat amusing when i watched the Canada Immigration website crash due to the influx of people seeking and plotting their escape.

Unfortunately the way the world seems to be heading towards is a racist, discriminatory, selfish, self righteous, chauvinistic & extremely fascist one. It's painful to see and I personally hope that just as this Trump movement has evolved and become a force...others emerge and fight tooth and nail with it.

You should never feel scared, anxious, apprehensive, intimidated, petrified, concerned I'd even say lost in your own country. Everyone is equal regardless of Race, Religion, Ethnicity, Colour or Creed. I feel concerned with the amount of people who categorise themselves as anxious & scared tbh...I just hope that people don't start to retaliate with race crimes (like some have over here after the Brexit vote)...they have access to guns & ammunition already.

It's a very disturbing result when a NON Politician with NO Military background can WIN and become Commander & Chief of the World's Strongest Super Power....USA what you were thinking was just a fallacy or a joke....has very much become a Horrible Reality.

zantetsukenz
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17:22 Wed 9 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
It's been a horribly right wing year
buckjam
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17:31 Wed 9 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I think people have had enough of politicians. Trump i grant you has no real skill or practice on world wide deplomacy or even in his own country. But maybe deplomacy is out dated and countrys need to start doing whats right for them instead of pandering to everyone else. He's a business man and as such should be able to find out where the money in the economy is being wasted.I always wanted Branson to take over the UK's finances. The fat cats would have had a heart attack.
Electing Trump was a statement from the populous that enoughs enough. As it was with Brexit. People are listening now!
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19:24 Wed 9 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Trump!!! The people are finally heard!! 4 years from now everyone can thank him for making America great again!
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19:27 Wed 9 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'm glad we have a President who is not under 2 FBI investigations... America!
jimfaebod
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19:30 Wed 9 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
The one thing that I have always said about the Trump Campaign, he is self funded. He says a lot of things that Im sure plenty of people would love to say, but dont! He says it as it is.. and certainly dont mince his words..
whocares8x8
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19:35 Wed 9 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
The uneducated middle-aged and elderly white man's vote wins- in a system where the minority vote wins!
A big lol for America's democracy.

Im glad I can watch it from far away.
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19:55 Wed 9 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Seb that's not true. .. Plain and simple... You can't win by as much as he did and for your statement to be true..... Trump wasn't suppose to win, but democracy happened..
whocares8x8
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20:42 Wed 9 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Seb that's not true. .. Plain and simple... You can't win by as much as he did and for your statement to be true..... Trump wasn't suppose to win, but democracy happened..
Hey, more people voted for Clinton, at least by the count right now. The US's archaic system from the 1700s breaks it into electors...
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00:25 Thu 10 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
The uneducated middle-aged and elderly white man's vote

That statement right there is bs ... If he only had the uneducated elder white vote .. He would not of won.. In fact that statement is borderline racists. I can also guarantee you, we are educated... But whatever..
_knightmare_
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04:54 Thu 10 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
ALL the New Channels analyzing and studying their Exit Polls stated the exact same as Seb has above....it's not racist or discriminatory at all. It's pure Fact -

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/white-voters-victory-donald-trump-exit-polls

It's called Market Research.

Edited at 05:02 Thu 10/11/16 (GMT)
jimfaebod
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08:05 Thu 10 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Irrespective of whom voted for DJ Trump, it was a democratic vote by the American voters.

It has to be accepted just like the Brexit vote here in the UK. I voted against Brexit, however as it was as above democratcally voted for by the British voters, I have to accept that.

For anyone to receive and duly be elected to the Office of the Whitehouse has gained massive support from the American Public.
vixen_xox
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16:09 Thu 10 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I don't usually discuss politics because it never ends well, but I think the majority of people have a strong opinion about this.

Firstly, I'm all for empowering women, and women should have the opportunity to climb the highest political ladders just the same as men do. So it shouldn't go unmentioned that 53% of white women voted for Trump, and he had only lost white women with college degrees by a narrow margin. So all this talk of it being the elderly/middle aged uneducated white male vote that won it for him is far from the truth.

A lot of black males voted for him, as did a lot of latinos, including 26% of latino women. He had especially high support from Cubans because they didn't support Obamas decision to open up the borders to Cuba after they originally escaped from Cuba to the US because of the crime and tyranny there.

I'm sure he did receive votes from racists, but I doubt he received as many votes from bigotted racists as Hillary received from women just for the fact that she's female, that's as illogical a reason to vote for someone to lead your country for the next 4 years at the least.

The fact is Clinton is a career politician, and she was very disliked, especially after her lies regarding the Benghazi issues as well as the fact she achieved very little during her time as secretary of state, or in fact during her political career as a whole, other than cushioning the Clinton foundation (Just ask the people in Haiti).
vixen_xox
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16:09 Thu 10 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
So when it came down to personal choice, the majority of white women chose Trump because 'his record as a businessman and his policy positions resonated with them more strongly than Clintons candidacy as a woman'

I don't believe that wanting to protect your own people (which includes legal immigrants and all colours and creeds) from the illegal element that could bring in more crime and especially terrorism IS racist. I think it's common sense. It's political correctness gone mad to call it otherwise. As a Canadian living in another country I certainly wouldn't take offense to being "vetted" when the world is what it is today, I'd adhere to that countries laws and policies and respect that as part and parcel of my choice to go there.

Has he said stupid, offensive things, yeah he really has, and I certainly find his language regarding women offensive. Does he have political or military experience, not really.. But maybe that's the change that's needed, America lost all belief and faith in their government because they were gaining career politician after career politician, liar upon liar, broken promises and empty words. For a country 20 trillion $'s in debt, to gain someone business minded can't be all that bad. And the democrats do still have some say in the decisions made for a future USA.

As a female Latino Trump voter said "You can take a liar or you can take a chance" ..

That's all. Probably.
_stellafella
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17:07 Thu 10 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
very good rant and iv one word for it vixen




AGREED
whocares8x8
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17:25 Thu 10 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
The uneducated middle-aged and elderly white man's vote

That statement right there is bs ... If he only had the uneducated elder white vote .. He would not of won.. In fact that statement is borderline racists. I can also guarantee you, we are educated... But whatever..
Eh?? Im talking about the exit poll numbers.
With about 93% of the vote counted, Clinton hast about 300.000 votes more. A system where the minority wins the election is obviously fundamentally undemocratic. That of course is not Trump's fault. Just putting it out there.

-Trump won the majority of the male vote, Clinton won the majority of the female vote.
-Trump won the majority of the vote from those aged 45+, Clinton won the majority of the vote from those aged 18-44.
-Trump won 58% of the white vote, Clinton won 74% of the non-white vote.
-Trump won the majority of the vote from people without college education, Clinton won the majority from people with college education.

Put those four together and you get "white, male, middle-aged/elderly, uneducated". Uneducated in this case meaning no high school or less.

Dont call me racist. Just look at the numbers.

It's the same kind of voting structure that you also find in the brexit vote and the far-right movements in several European countries, including here in Germany. Except fortunately, they're only at about 12% here.
_knightmare_
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17:38 Thu 10 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Good 2 posts there DeeDee, I do agree (ish) and see what you're saying the fact of the matter is: I personally do not and never have nor probably ever will think he's a suitable candidate for such an illustrious and prestigious position.

Granted he's a very successful businessman, well appears to be but that's not all true. Since 2014 he's had 4 Casinos close: The Trump Plaza, Showboat Casino Hotel, Revel and the Atlantic Club. He had one in 1990 called The Trumo Taj Mahal and that was closed due to heavy debt financing & years of financial debt maneuvers.

Is he really a successful businessman? I think not, correct we all have and suffer failures but most of us will pick ourselves back up and more importantly learn from our mistakes. He doesn't, he goes back to doing the exact same thing time and time again.

Also faces Federal lawsuit on Fraud related charges even now before his Inauguration to become the 45th President. In ANY company most employees or employers are suspended pending investigation, he should have been dealt exactly the same. Just because he can boast or claim to be 'the successful businessman and wealthy' he acts as if he's above the law.

Not saying Hillary Clinton is a Saint...we only know what's being speculated and broadcasted through the media and Wikileaks - where J.Assange likes to be noticed and interferes. Trump won this election after many years of scaremongering, belittling his opponent, speaking his mind (degrading others).
_knightmare_
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17:47 Thu 10 Nov 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Change is always good and welcome but there has to be a more suitable, amicable, pleasant approach to achieving it. He's a businessman through and through, you wouldn't even get short listed for a position in any other job without the right credentials, experience or background....surely being the President of the Worlds Strongest Super Power is the Highest acclaimed position ever to be sought.

Doesn't add up how he can even be considered for the Job on those reasons alone.

World's gone mad, Far Right voting everywhere, it's a scary and alarming time to be alive. I've seen posts recently comparing him to historic dictators and the similarities even though are somewhat unfounded (at this present time) are very worrying to say the least.

If he gets to keep the role and gets found not guilty of the Fraud allegations then he proves to be successful then fantastic but I hasten to think the USA and more importantly the World is a little screwed here after this ludicrous decision.
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