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_gerardddd_
_gerardddd_
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20:03 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
no mind games are being played... when have i ever played mind games on anyone?

its all for the benefit of getting games complete.. i dont care who i play tbh, name me an opponent and ill show up and play them.. if i get swapped to play ash, ok then ill accept and play him, if i dont then ill accept that to and play whoever, it doesnt matter to me...

not bothered who i play, its only a game
klien
klien
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20:03 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
swaps should be heavily encouraged, and a player should have a genuine reason to refuse a swap - other than abject cowardice. Otherwise, you're calling into the question the integrity of every team attempting to make a swap.


Of course swaps are encouraged.. I agree with you on the cowardice part as well..

What i'm saying is, until im told otherwise.. the rules are that both teams have to agree and in this case they don't.. Theres not a lot you can do... with most players on this site, the swap would be made and the opponent wouldnt care who they played...
faust
faust
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20:04 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
swaps should be heavily encouraged, and a player should have a genuine reason to refuse a swap - other than abject cowardice. Otherwise, you're calling into the question the integrity of every team attempting to make a swap.


Of course swaps are encouraged.. I agree with you on the cowardice part as well..

What i'm saying is, until im told otherwise.. the rules are that both teams have to agree and in this case they don't.. Theres not a lot you can do... with most players on this site, the swap would be made and the opponent wouldnt care who they played...


In which case the rules need tweaking! :)
klien
klien
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20:05 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
To what though? Any player can swap any game?

Doesn't that open up to more cowardice? ... Oh I've drawn harriet.. I much prefer to play cabbie though, lets swap myself into that...

Theres just no way around it.. the only fair means is for both players to agree
_epicshot_
_epicshot_
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20:06 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Dont be so stupid Epic.. read the rules around swaps and then come back to me..

A swap is ONLY allowed IF the opposing team agrees.. in this case the opposing team hasnt agreed, therefore no swap.

In triple_b's case.. the opposing team hasnt said anything, but they havent disagreed.. so therefore, unless someone on that team says something, the swap is fine.

SUBS were meant to be non-existent in this league, but because of the merges some players had unbalanced games. SUBS are now allowed if a player has unbalanced games. Ferret and gerarddd both have 9 games.. no SUB..

End of discussion.


The only one looking stupid might be you since i'm talking about the swap where they asked for you____lost vs letsgochamp to be swapped with knightmare vs feretlady .. I was saying it wasnt a silly swap or mind games that swap seemed needed. And if you questioned that still, take a look at the swap triple_b made was over the same issue you____lost had which lewis is a night time player and you____lost is a daytime player. You need to have all info before you try to get on someone .
klien
klien
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20:07 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
The only one looking stupid might be you since i'm talking about the swap where they asked for you____lost vs letsgochamp to be swapped with knightmare vs feretlady .. I was saying it wasnt a silly swap or mind games that swap seemed needed. And if you questioned that still, take a look at the swap triple_b made was over the same issue you____lost had which lewis is a night time player and you____lost is a daytime player. You need to have all info before you try to get on someone .


I'm talking about the same swap -_- ... swaps, under the current rules, can only take place if both teams agree... the example we're discussing both teams havent agreed therefore no swap.

Triple_b's example, both teams have agreed therefore swap.

Someone order a dummies guide of the rules for epic, please.
_epicshot_
_epicshot_
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20:10 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
The only one looking stupid might be you since i'm talking about the swap where they asked for you____lost vs letsgochamp to be swapped with knightmare vs feretlady .. I was saying it wasnt a silly swap or mind games that swap seemed needed. And if you questioned that still, take a look at the swap triple_b made was over the same issue you____lost had which lewis is a night time player and you____lost is a daytime player. You need to have all info before you try to get on someone .


I'm talking about the same swap -_- ... swaps, under the current rules, can only take place if both teams agree... the example we're discussing both teams havent agreed therefore no swap.

Triple_b's example, both teams have agreed therefore swap.

Someone order a dummies guide of the rules for epic, please.


Yeah i know the rule and not saying different. I am just saying your post you left them calling it silly or whatever was un called for when their original swap was needed. That's all i am not debating the rule. Just debating the fact you think it was all for mind games. The original swap was needed and should have been accepted its not so yeah nothing can be done. From what you____lost said the game will go to default now .

And your dummies guide comment your real coool there spoonful
_gerardddd_
_gerardddd_
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20:11 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Get off my lawn!!!!!!
klien
klien
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20:14 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Then let the game go to default for christ sake.. they'll win it.. the onus is now on ash to ensure both games are played.. if one or both go to default, that team will lose, same as it always has been.

Any more of it throughout the season could lead to players like Ash being removed from the leagues completely... its his risk to run, theres no need for arguing over it.. follow the rules and the rest will take care of itself.
horse10000
horse10000
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20:57 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
The only one looking stupid might be you since i'm talking about the swap where they asked for you____lost vs letsgochamp to be swapped with knightmare vs feretlady .. I was saying it wasnt a silly swap or mind games that swap seemed needed. And if you questioned that still, take a look at the swap triple_b made was over the same issue you____lost had which lewis is a night time player and you____lost is a daytime player. You need to have all info before you try to get on someone .


I'm talking about the same swap -_- ... swaps, under the current rules, can only take place if both teams agree... the example we're discussing both teams havent agreed therefore no swap.

Triple_b's example, both teams have agreed therefore swap.

Someone order a dummies guide of the rules for epic, please.


Just for clarification there is not a requirement for both teams to agree, if one team makes a swap then the other chooses to refuse the swap.

If the games then go to default, the refusal of the swap would go against the team who chose not to accept it in the first place.

Really it is up to teams to work together and in most cases no one complains but when someone does it spoils it for everyone as what does it matter who plays who as long as the two games are played.
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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21:07 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Swaps are made in order to try and get fixtures played, the fact this swap was based upon a complete fallacy and false information justifies our stance and reason to reject it. If you permit this swap, you stop both fixtures getting played as I don't and never will be available to play during the daytime.

So I totally disagree with you horse10000 for that garbage comment about it countering against the team who rejected it. It's rejected as it makes no sense and doesn't accommodate both teams. A team has every right to reject any swap if it doesn't seem feasible or a genuine mechanism to try to complete both fixtures.

How can you punish the team for not accepting it? What a load of codswallop!
_epicshot_
_epicshot_
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21:08 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
The only one looking stupid might be you since i'm talking about the swap where they asked for you____lost vs letsgochamp to be swapped with knightmare vs feretlady .. I was saying it wasnt a silly swap or mind games that swap seemed needed. And if you questioned that still, take a look at the swap triple_b made was over the same issue you____lost had which lewis is a night time player and you____lost is a daytime player. You need to have all info before you try to get on someone .


I'm talking about the same swap -_- ... swaps, under the current rules, can only take place if both teams agree... the example we're discussing both teams havent agreed therefore no swap.

Triple_b's example, both teams have agreed therefore swap.

Someone order a dummies guide of the rules for epic, please.


Just for clarification there is not a requirement for both teams to agree, if one team makes a swap then the other chooses to refuse the swap.

If the games then go to default, the refusal of the swap would go against the team who chose not to accept it in the first place.

Really it is up to teams to work together and in most cases no one complains but when someone does it spoils it for everyone as what does it matter who plays who as long as the two games are played.


Thank you horse for clearing up that rule. Now we all know the rule m8 ..
horse10000
horse10000
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21:10 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Swaps are made in order to try and get fixtures played, the fact this swap was based upon a complete fallacy and false information justifies our stance and reason to reject it. If you permit this swap, you stop both fixtures getting played as I don't and never will be available to play during the daytime.

So I totally disagree with you horse10000 for that garbage comment about it countering against the team who rejected it. It's rejected as it makes no sense and doesn't accommodate both teams. A team has every right to reject any swap if it doesn't seem feasible or a genuine mechanism to try to complete both fixtures.

How can you punish the team for not accepting it? What a load of codswallop!


Not at all if you accept it and then prove it doesn't suit it would go against them. By refusing it you then need to prove that the games can be completed without the swap and if they are not then the refusal would go against you as there would be no proof that allowing it would have got both games played which is why they claim it was done in the first place.
_gerardddd_
_gerardddd_
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21:12 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
triple_b 9 - 6 _gerardddd_

few silly misses from me and she punished me for them.. 2 of which where for run outs in both 8ball types.. she played well though and had bad luck herself in uk8.. ggs wp gl for the rest
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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21:23 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Swaps are made in order to try and get fixtures played, the fact this swap was based upon a complete fallacy and false information justifies our stance and reason to reject it. If you permit this swap, you stop both fixtures getting played as I don't and never will be available to play during the daytime.

So I totally disagree with you horse10000 for that garbage comment about it countering against the team who rejected it. It's rejected as it makes no sense and doesn't accommodate both teams. A team has every right to reject any swap if it doesn't seem feasible or a genuine mechanism to try to complete both fixtures.

How can you punish the team for not accepting it? What a load of codswallop!


Not at all if you accept it and then prove it doesn't suit it would go against them. By refusing it you then need to prove that the games can be completed without the swap and if they are not then the refusal would go against you as there would be no proof that allowing it would have got both games played which is why they claim it was done in the first place.


In any walk of like you reject anything you disagree with especially if you deem it to encourage its likelihood to being more a hindrance than a simple solution. The moment you accept anything then you're accepting it's possible implications & the consequences it brings, the swap helped neither team, so was rejected.
faust
faust
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21:34 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  

In any walk of like you reject anything you disagree with especially if you deem it to encourage its likelihood to being more a hindrance than a simple solution. The moment you accept anything then you're accepting it's possible implications & the consequences it brings, the swap helped neither team, so was rejected.


lucky Bucky didn't feel the same way when you pussied out of playing him!
beetlejuice
beetlejuice
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21:48 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  

In any walk of like you reject anything you disagree with especially if you deem it to encourage its likelihood to being more a hindrance than a simple solution. The moment you accept anything then you're accepting it's possible implications & the consequences it brings, the swap helped neither team, so was rejected.


lucky Bucky didn't feel the same way when you pussied out of playing him!


It's good for buck. Mich is a much more prestigious win.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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21:50 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
It's good for buck. Mich is a much more prestigious win.


speaking of bucky vs mich, result needs posting as it got changed to lewis due to mich's removal.

if its posted i can add mich's name and result instead

EDIT: Cheers will add tomorrow

Edited at 21:55 Sun 12/03/17 (GMT)
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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23:00 Sun 12 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
Team G 0 vs 0 Team L - Swap

Now:

snowden vs you___lost - both daytime players...I'm not
_knightmare_ vs ferretlady - already arranged
letsgochamp vs jayboy89 - both evening players so easily accommodated.

All fixtures covered - Sorted - all 3 will be played and we can all be happy

Previously: (prev: mich) snowden vs jayboy89 (prev: jedi_master)
_knightmare_ vs ferretlady (prev: scottyjr) - arranged
letsgochamp vs you___lost

* you___lost wanted a daytime player - he has one now.
vixen_xxx
vixen_xxx
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03:45 Mon 13 Mar 17 (GMT)  [Link]  
^ In all fairness Ash really has never been a daytime player.
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