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18:23 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
It is not me that has the issue, but I am not going to respond nicely if someone people cannot post their opinions constructively and civilly.
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18:35 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Jay you hit a nail on the head there. If you leave things that work alone then i cannot 'attack'. The poll link you can find was for two leagues or one. The reason you cant find the one for the format is because there wasnt one.

Stop banning everyone, especially when it involves your team, stop trying to gwt your beak in every decision a clan can make, release the fixtures and update the table and then i cannot comment. Everthing else isnt required.

i post what i feel are valid comments. I don't do ot out of spite. It just seems that way because in my opinion she keeps getting it wrong. How long have you been in charge and you still dont have the basic set up decided? Time to give in.
ab_rfc
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18:57 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Might aswell have my opinion

We won't all agree with each others opinions but lets keep it friendly and constructive for the sake of the FBL.

Going by what most of you have been saying this is what I would have

uk, us8 and 9 - keep it at 2 v 2 for each type, play 7 games so you can have a winner.
straight - leave as is
killer - 3 options
1, 1 game of 3 v 3. (my preferred option)
2, The same 6 players play 2 games one after the other.
3, 2 games of 3 v 3 with a different 6 players playing each game.

As for the killer scoring I think there should only be 6 points total available whether its 1 or 2 games, I don't see killer as a serious clan game, more a bit of fun between the 2 clans and I wouldn't want the main fixtures decided by high scoring in killer, for example if you kept the present scoring for 2 games a team could win 12-0, in my opinion thats too high for a fun game.
So if its 1 game have 6 available for that game, if its 2 games have 3 available for each game.

Nearly forgot to mention - bin the bonus points

Just my thoughts and some people will disagree with me but hey if you don't like it come up with something better.

Edited at 16:11 Tue 30/07/13 (BST)
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19:09 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Your opinions make sense there ab - me agreeing? shocking I know.

I do like the idea of a winner in a game type hence the 7 frames but I think I may revert back to overall bonus points instead of individual wins.

I agree with you that killer should have no more than 6 points and like that if 2 games of killer are introduced only 3 points a game should be awarded.

Torn between 1 or 2 games of killer though - we need more opinions on it
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19:26 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Why shouldn't killer be worth 12 points? A team can win 8us 7-0 7-0 then that's 14 points. So I don't see a problem with killer being worth the same, if you have a 3 vs 3 killer worth 3 points that's far too much of a game for so little gain.
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19:27 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
1 game of killer i would keep it as it is, hassle arranging that let alone 2 lol. Maybe ONLY play the 2nd match if 1st ends in a draw?
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19:46 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Ok Matty how does this sound, 2 games using 3 different players = 6 points per game or 2 games one after the other with the same players = 3 points per game.

I would stick with one game of killer but go back to the old scoring system
Team A v Team B - points depending on top 3
A,A,A = 6-0
A,A,B = 5-1
A,B,A and A,B,B = 4-2
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19:55 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I like the 2 games with 3 different players 6 points per game I really think in most cases it ends up 5-1, 6-0's are not that common in my opinion. And Harry proved against pros one man can take out three.
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19:56 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Tbf I think its pretty fine the way it is.

I do believe scoring in killer needs to be written down very carefully, so its clear to all. Iv seen 2 different clans come out with the same outcome and one label it 5-1 and another 4-2.

Only thing I question is the bonus for winning, I'm not sure its needed and agree with Ash a 3-4 going to 3-5 can be very harsh.
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19:58 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Jay you hit a nail on the head there. If you leave things that work alone then i cannot 'attack'. The poll link you can find was for two leagues or one. The reason you cant find the one for the format is because there wasnt one.

Stop banning everyone, especially when it involves your team, stop trying to get your beak in every decision a clan can make, release the fixtures and update the table and then i cannot comment. Everthing else isnt required.


Hmm we seem to be on the same wavelength. Don't get me wrong, I think the amount of time and effort you put in is great and is what the leagues are looking for. I know you can't please everyone but the general consensus I seem to be getting from the ways the leagues were previously run was that 'If it ain't broke, it doesn't need fixing'
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20:24 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Tbf I think its pretty fine the way it is.

I do believe scoring in killer needs to be written down very carefully, so its clear to all. Iv seen 2 different clans come out with the same outcome and one label it 5-1 and another 4-2.

Only thing I question is the bonus for winning, I'm not sure its needed and agree with Ash a 3-4 going to 3-5 can be very harsh.

I think you'll find its because the killer scoring confused a few people because previously it would've been 4-2 and the way the scoring is now its 5-1.
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21:15 Tue 30 Jul 13 (BST)  [Link]  
The Killer scoring will be as Alan said...

A,A,A = 6-0
A,A,B = 5-1
A,B,A and A,B,B = 4-2
dgeneratio
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23:49 Mon 5 Aug 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Jema the Plate is where losers of their first match goes into a separate competition known as the Plate.

Lets use 6 clans as an example:

Snooker Squad
Untouchables
MVP
Wipeout
Professionals
Cobras

Cup Quarter Finals

Wipeout 1-5 MVP
Professionals 2-4 Cobras

BYES: Snooker Squad, Untouchables

Cup Semi Finals

Snooker Squad 4-2 MVP
Untouchables 5-1 Cobras

Plate Semi Finals

Wipeout 5-1 Cobras
Professionals 1-5 MVP

Cup Final

Snooker Squad 2-4 Untouchables

Plate Final

Wipeout 5-1 MVP
dgeneratio
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23:50 Mon 5 Aug 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Killer:

1 game of 3 vs 3 or 2 games of 2 vs 2

don't agree with 2 games of 3 vs 3
horse10000
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00:28 Tue 6 Aug 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Killer should be 3 points for 1st, 2 points for second and 1 point for third. Very easy to score and top 3 positions all score and further you get the more you can win.

Why should a game not end up in a draw if you have 1 v 2 and the 1 player wins.

The Killer scoring will be as Alan said...

A,A,A = 6-0
A,A,B = 5-1
A,B,A and A,B,B = 4-2


From pixies example only difference would be A, B, B would be a draw 3-3. If a clan has 2 left to the other teams 1 they deserve 3 points in my opinion.

Edited at 21:31 Mon 05/08/13 (BST)
whocares8x8
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00:43 Tue 6 Aug 13 (BST)  [Link]  
It's killer- there shouldn't be a 3-3 score ever, because there is always a clear winner.
horse10000
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00:46 Tue 6 Aug 13 (BST)  [Link]  
It's killer- there shouldn't be a 3-3 score ever, because there is always a clear winner.


Her would win as he gets 3 points which is more than anyone else in the game
whocares8x8
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00:51 Tue 6 Aug 13 (BST)  [Link]  
it's a team game. the team wouldnt win even though it won the game.
punkpoet
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03:53 Thu 8 Aug 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Can we a specific why we allow subs? as I thought it was for getting games done.
Yet I see tactical subs still, can there ba a ruling on tactical subs are they allowed or not.Then if not figure out a way to stop it.
As personally this picking who you play or subbing people out as you feel another player has a better chance is something tht should be stamped out.
whocares8x8
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03:58 Thu 8 Aug 13 (BST)  [Link]  
^Why?
If Mourinho subs on another player because he thinks it gives him a better chance of winning the game, should that be banned?

Anyone from a team is eligible to play. If you ban a sub like that, it just means that teams will stick their top lineups in every single game.

Matching up opponents is another thing. But because one player is better? That's fine.
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