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20:58 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
ooo_u_tap_2 when i brought the Individual League back mate it was opened to everyone even if not in a clan. Maybe worth looking at.
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20:59 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
yarmolenko is deactivated, so looks like the__priest moves into his spot
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21:01 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  

The Semi-Final appears to be the only Round with 'Legs'.

Does that mean that if you win the first 'leg' 6-0 and lose the second 'leg' 5-6 you are level at 1-1 and go to the sudden death or is it just added together to make 11-6? Either way are the Semi-Finals not a longer format than the Final?


If you win the first leg 6-0 and lose the 2nd 5-6 it's 1 leg each and sudden death yes.
Reason being someone can have a really off game in the first leg and nothing is decided.
You only play till someone gets to 6 frames so it depends on the scoring whether it works out longer than the final (with a potential 19 frames in the final and the possibility of it being over in 12 in the semis)
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21:03 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
ooo_u_tap_2 when i brought the Individual League back mate it was opened to everyone even if not in a clan. Maybe worth looking at.


Far as i'm concerned it's an FCL event for FCL players mate
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21:03 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Reason being someone can have a really off game in the first leg and nothing is decided.


So you are only allowing for that issue in the one round?
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21:04 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Tappy, u put me in and pro_frog, can u update, so anybody interested (i have 2 players) can see that they will be first chocie for RESERVE probably. But they may go back to page 7 and see that its full in all, and they may be 2nd choice for reserve..
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21:09 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Reason being someone can have a really off game in the first leg and nothing is decided.


So you are only allowing for that issue in the one round?


Realised it was a completely new thing that hadn't been tested before so just wanted to do it in the semis this season, if it is the success that I hope it to be would look at maybe doing it in the quarters too next season.
There is also the scheduling with FCL only running over 10 weeks the group stages taking up 4 weeks of deadlines leaving a fortnight for each round, 2 games with 2 legs shouldn't be any problem over a fortnight but maybe 4 would.
This is also how a lot of football competitions are run with the semis being over 2 legs after a group stage and a single leg quarter final.
Final is always a final and 1 leg
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21:10 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Tappy, u put me in and pro_frog, can u update, so anybody interested (i have 2 players) can see that they will be first chocie for RESERVE probably. But they may go back to page 7 and see that its full in all, and they may be 2nd choice for reserve..


1 thing at a time please mate, we are discussing format at the moment
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21:11 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Tappy, u put me in and pro_frog, can u update, so anybody interested (i have 2 players) can see that they will be first chocie for RESERVE probably. But they may go back to page 7 and see that its full in all, and they may be 2nd choice for reserve..


1 thing at a time please mate, we are discussing format at the moment
I know mate, i could update it quite easily and correctly myself, just want a couple of m8's of mine to see the updated list, so they arent confused.

Just dont want it to look like im doing ur job..
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21:15 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I know mate, i could update it quite easily and correctly myself, just want a couple of m8's of mine to see the updated list, so they arent confused.

Just dont want it to look like im doing ur job..


You couldn't update it quickly and easily because you dont get to make decisions on people being removed, yarmalenko will be given a day or 2 to reactivate and reserves will be asked for as and when required.
Want to hear peoples feedback on the format at the moment, that's why I posted it.
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21:15 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Realised it was a completely new thing that hadn't been tested before so just wanted to do it in the semis this season, if it is the success that I hope it to be would look at maybe doing it in the quarters too next season.


I know what you're trying to do and I am not against the concept. It's a bit like darts scoring. It is anti the FCL concept of accumulation of frames being king but that doesn't concern me in particular.

Maybe shorter legs and more of them? Best of 3 or 5 for example? But I do think the concept, if you decide on it, ought to apply to all the knock out rounds rather than just one.
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21:18 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
FORMAT
ROUND ONE - GROUP STAGES

Groups are drawn at random using an online cup generator.
8 frames of your chosen game to play
Win = 3 points
Draw = 1 point
Loss = 0 points

Top 2 in each group will qualify for the knockout stage, in the event of a points tie rack difference will be used to decide a winner so every frame counts.
Rack Difference = Frames won v Frames Lost
(example - 6-2 win + 5-3 loss = 9 frames won, 7 frames lost. FD +2)

QUARTER FINALS
The draw for the quarter final will be seeded, the winners from the group stages will play the runners-up from other groups, games will be drawn at random using an online cup generator.
The only other criteria for the draw is that 2 players from the same group will not play each other in this round.
11 frames of your chosen game maximum to play, first player to win 6 frames wins and progresses to the semi-finals.

SEMI-FINALS
The semi-finals will be drawn at random using an online cup generator.
The semi-finals will be played over 2 'legs' of
11 frames of your chosen game maximum to play, first player to win 6 frames wins the leg.
In the event of a tied game after the 2 legs players will play a sudden-death scenario where the game continues until one player goes 2 frames ahead to win.

FINAL & 3RD PLACE PLAY-OFF
19 frames of your chosen game maximum to play, first player to win 10 frames in the final wins the title/claims third place.
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21:20 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Definitely would consider it for the quarter-finals too if that's what people wanted chris as the potential for big matches there is just as good as a semi but the final in competitions is always a big one off game and think it should be in this too.
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21:22 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Rack Difference = Frames won v Frames Lost
(example - 6-2 win + 5-3 loss = 9 frames won, 7 frames lost. FD +2) what does this mean?

6-2 + 5-3= 11 frames won in my book lol..you added it a different way of course, so...?
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21:23 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
This is also how a lot of football competitions are run with the semis being over 2 legs after a group stage and a single leg quarter final.
Final is always a final and 1 leg


The difference there is that the two leg scores are combined together. You have said that's not planned.
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21:27 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
This is also how a lot of football competitions are run with the semis being over 2 legs after a group stage and a single leg quarter final.
Final is always a final and 1 leg


The difference there is that the two leg scores are combined together. You have said that's not planned.


Scores aren't combined in a 1 leg quarter final at anytime cos there is nothing to combine
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21:28 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Rack Difference = Frames won v Frames Lost
(example - 6-2 win + 5-3 loss = 9 frames won, 7 frames lost. FD +2) what does this mean?

6-2 + 5-3= 11 frames won in my book lol..you added it a different way of course, so...?


Yes you need to go back to school
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21:31 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Scores aren't combined in a 1 leg quarter final at anytime cos there is nothing to combine


If you thought anyone was avoiding the question you would do your nut!!
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21:33 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
Rack Difference = Frames won v Frames Lost
(example - 6-2 win + 5-3 loss = 9 frames won, 7 frames lost. FD +2) what does this mean?

6-2 + 5-3= 11 frames won in my book lol..you added it a different way of course, so...?


Yes you need to go back to school
well common math, 6 +5 is eleven, and 2+3 is 5 not 7...i see FD is frame difference (more than likely) so u are giving and taking 2 points..not sure why...why not leave it how it is lol.

add 2 points to the losses, and take 2 from the wins? O_o

can anybody explain this?
Seems tappy wont
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21:34 Fri 4 Oct 13 (BST)  [Link]  
I think I answered why the scores aren't being combined to your satisfaction (in fact you liked the idea)
Also answered why it was being trialled in the semis too so don't see the new question i have to answer tbh
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