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kirk
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03:07 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Im one of the "old" players now and i reckon the ranks and what not should have been reset as soon as tournapoints and ranked tournies were placed. It's long overdue. However the old ranks should be kept and recorded as a lot of time will have gone into them.

Its a new generation now. Virt status should be lowered so people can actually achieve it, people get bored of chasing something thats pretty much impossible now. If it was more obtainable i reckon more people would play ranked games aswel.
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04:32 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Yeah archive them but don't reset everyone's not all want to be tarred with the same brush.

I think all accounts over the age of 4 or 5 years and IF the account holder WANTS their stats reset then they could. Mine's only a couple of years, I do NOT want mine reset as I've set myself my own targets and goals from day 1. However, I could quicken up me achieving my personal goals if say a 6 months advance notice were given stating in 6 months ALL stats will be reset and archived. That's not just acting on impulse but being respectful and mindful of all the traffic on here.

I agree with kirk's comment about the ranks being unobtainable, lessen the rank status's and give everyone the opportunity to achieve the highest possible rank they can. No player should be allowed to remain on the same rank, so that could be determined by overall win percentage etc if identical rank or other criteria.

How abut something like glow pool, neon cues, pool balls etc, just to give it a 'funky' feeling/vibe. (Call it FunkyNeon)

Just some ideas, don't shoot them down, only trying to help.

Edited at 02:41 Thu 27/02/14 (GMT)
the__priest
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11:33 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
day 3 of change

please check participation entry in tournament levels
they appear to have decreased not increased same as

so called winning of major (non-worthless) tournaments
average player participation 11 players
just above micro level (well worth winning)
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11:37 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
To be fair craig, seeing 12 players in a 9am tournament is pretty good. I haven't seen that many in a 9am for a while!
the__priest
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11:54 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
ranked games

players are online constantly along with non clan members

changes have been made because of the following
no ranked games
to many tournaments

first
1) there are rooms to make ranked games
2) clan and non clan players are online

the question is lets blame something for this
lets bleat and twist about it get admin to change things

why ?????

the problem is this, top players want to pick and chose who they play because their special ranked points mean the world to them and god forbid they play a reset newbie and lose,
tears everywhere threads made up complaining

simple answer stop complaining and make rooms
play ranked games its not admin or tournaments its
YOU the players
make the effort yourselves

secondly
to many tournaments totally agree here
have 2 or 3 micros per hour no problems there
pros for this
its a good introduction for new players on how to enter and sample tournaments and the step up from friendly games to competitive and the spirit it involves, good and bad

why not have tournament points players get ranked points
and play to achieve them, saying there worthless is a joke there the same as ranked points

people who don't play in tournaments don't because they may lose precious ranked points and status
is there a difference between ranked points and tournament points NO
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12:08 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Yes there is a difference. You get a little medal for tournapoints. The removal of micros were done due to their frequency and not amount of entrants, as micro only had a small number of participants allowed. Once full you couldn't enter. Also someone who won nothing but micros all day and night were able to beat someone to the day tournapoints over someone who won say 2 bigger tournaments in the same day.

Players are only complaining as they knew winning a micro were not too difficult or they had another 2, 3, maybe 4 to fall back on, so that one defeat swept under the carpet straight away.

I don't agree with scrapping them all, reduce them by all means and scrap the points for micros. A larger tournament should reward the eventual winner, its meant to be an accolade to win and a great achievement.
the__priest
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12:09 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
you can lose 30 points in a tournament and win it how can that be right
ranked points come and go
its part of tournament life

there is no difference to tournament players and ranked game
players
its competitive edge to win

and everyone wants to have it acknowledged

clan pool why have the golden cue easy to be recognised

its all ego, all about characters

the bigger issue here is why do new players not stay
its simple

a chat room with no chat
abuse and lack of manners
serial banned users

make funky a better place to be in
stop the crap, insults etc

make forums a place to chat
a new player making a post there
for the serial post shredders to rip them to bits
no wonder they don't stay its so bloody hostile

as you will see after this post, ive been on this site a long long time
people bleating about the good old days what a farcical comment

there was more crap in them days but a lot was fun and banter

today its nasty and cruel, life and death to some

the problem with funky is it need to lighten up

read clan threads jesus if people spoke to another person like that in real life there would be some real issues to deal with



stop bleating about ranked games make the rooms
you the players do something instead of going on and on like broken records
for admin to wipe micros on a whim is also farcical
12000 active members we are told

how many got this changed
10 or 12
the__priest
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12:14 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Players are only complaining as they knew winning a micro were not too difficult or they had another 2, 3, maybe 4 to fall back on, so that one defeat swept under the carpet straight away.

are you for real ???
there are some class player in these games

real tournaments with what 6 players in them (check finished tournament games some have 3 entries)
there is or was more participation in micros than so called main tournaments
prestige in winning so called big tournaments that mean something then ???? ......... 11 players on average

cull a few by all means but not all

morning pool is being wiped out

Edited at 10:21 Thu 27/02/14 (GMT)
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12:30 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Yes i am for real they were easier to win. Only needed 1 frame, most the time rounds were won by a fluke. So yes i stand by what i said.

Some players bitter more about not being able to rack up a day tournapoints than the actual fact micros were way to frequent, easier to win, the bigger tournaments were suffering due to numbers entering as they were in a micro. Lost count how many players missed their invites due to this and still lost a frames worth of points even to a resetter who were by no means a newbie.
faust
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12:36 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Everything about friendlier chat rooms and participation numbers is utter tosh. No new player would play funkypool because of a chat room - if you want to chat to strangers, there are much better places than funkypool to do so. Funkypool can never be what it once was, because times have moved on. Most young people strictly use phones and tablets now, and your hardcore gamers on gaming pcs are not spending all that money on hardware to play a 2d pool game.

Getting rid of micros will probably have little long term benefit, but short term, it will stop people getting medals purely for spending their entire lives on the game. Saying that - who cares if someone is getting medals just for entering every micro tourney everyday? I couldn't be bothered to do it, and none of the really good players are remotely interested in medals. So even though I disagree with almost everything Craig has posted, I'd say give it a month or two, and if there is no positive difference - then bring micros back.

I agree 100% about ranking resets. Either change the ranking system back to the old way, or reset so everyone has accurate stats gained under the newer system.
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12:39 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Ooo that previous poster...me then? Lol
faust
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12:44 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Ooo that previous poster...me then? Lol


No! You jumped the queue! lol
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12:46 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Ooo that previous poster...me then? Lol


No! You jumped the queue! lol


Ooops sorry lol.
the__priest
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12:51 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Faust you make a great post
Quote non of the really good players are bothered
Hmmm

Top 50 medal winners
have some mighty good players
Maybe rethink your words there

Some truly great players are on that list
And a good few uprising players old and new

Pleased to think you rate your players and others so highly

Also medals have only been out around 2years
So the lists are very current
faust
faust
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13:45 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Faust you make a great post
Quote non of the really good players are bothered
Hmmm

Top 50 medal winners
have some mighty good players
Maybe rethink your words there

Some truly great players are on that list
And a good few uprising players old and new

Pleased to think you rate your players and others so highly

Also medals have only been out around 2years
So the lists are very current


Haha, nope, I stand by what I say. Currently, none of the top players chase tourneypoints. Your weak attempt at mind games will not change what anyone in Uprising thinks about me, but nice attempt!
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13:51 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Either reset tournapoints and the event winners with the rank reset or remove tournapoints, it would be interesting how many people that have won events don't win any after their precious micros are gone.
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13:52 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Also there might not be a massive increase in tournament players but there has been a noticeable amount of ranked rooms open compared to how it used to be!

So at least there is that!
faust
faust
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13:55 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Either reset tournapoints and the event winners with the rank reset or remove tournapoints, it would be interesting how many people that have won events don't win any after their precious micros are gone.


I don't necessarily agree mate. Surely they'll just enter every single normal tourney? I you spend all day everyday trying to get points, you could be a quadruple amputee and still win a medal!
faust
faust
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13:56 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Also there might not be a massive increase in tournament players but there has been a noticeable amount of ranked rooms open compared to how it used to be!

So at least there is that!


Yes, you can't argue there. So far, so good!
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14:31 Thu 27 Feb 14 (GMT)  [Link]  
Either reset tournapoints and the event winners with the rank reset or remove tournapoints, it would be interesting how many people that have won events don't win any after their precious micros are gone.


I don't necessarily agree mate. Surely they'll just enter every single normal tourney? I you spend all day everyday trying to get points, you could be a quadruple amputee and still win a medal!


Most Day Event winners were players that played every micro during times with 8-20 people online abusing the fact not many skilled players nor a high amount of players where online making it easier.

This is the main reason people are mad micro are gone!
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