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_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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15:09 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Because they'd have a paddy if didn't get their own way, some would call it an Uprising or Mutiny.

Hope the Rules Next Season are Consistent for All.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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15:29 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Sorry mate but they signed Imran before the Killer Semi Final started so they could use him

Sun 5th July
http://www.funkypool.com/thread/19750/killer-challenge-cup-news-discussion-results/7#1761211

Zante announces...

Killer Cup Wildcard Match (3 vs 3 vs 3 vs 3)
Unbeatables vs Black Scorpions vs Pocket Dynamos vs Fearless Knights

Winner progresses to the final

Killer Cup Final (5 vs 5 vs 5)
Uprising vs Professionals vs Wildcard Winner

Same night faust signed Imran to Uprising
http://www.funkypool.com/thread/19489/fbl-team-changes/35#1761231

Two weeks later Killer Final is announced...
http://www.funkypool.com/thread/19750/killer-challenge-cup-news-discussion-results/9#1764172

Can't see where the angry mob comes into it
klien
klien
Posts: 2,588
15:49 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Sorry mate but they signed Imran before the Killer Semi Final started so they could use him

Sun 5th July
http://www.funkypool.com/thread/19750/killer-challenge-cup-news-discussion-results/7#1761211

Zante announces...

Killer Cup Wildcard Match (3 vs 3 vs 3 vs 3)
Unbeatables vs Black Scorpions vs Pocket Dynamos vs Fearless Knights

Winner progresses to the final

Killer Cup Final (5 vs 5 vs 5)
Uprising vs Professionals vs Wildcard Winner

Same night faust signed Imran to Uprising
http://www.funkypool.com/thread/19489/fbl-team-changes/35#1761231

Two weeks later Killer Final is announced...
http://www.funkypool.com/thread/19750/killer-challenge-cup-news-discussion-results/9#1764172

Can't see where the angry mob comes into it



You're incorrect.

Imran signed 25 days ago.

The Killer Cup matches were drawn over a month ago.

Keith explicitly said that you could only use players that were in the team BEFORE the initial draw was made, hence Imran was ineligible.

Edited at 12:52 Thu 30/07/15 (BST)
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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16:00 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Ah okay i thought it worked the same way as the clan league? looking back i can't see a post where Keith has said this in FBL Killer thread. I'll take your word for it pal but way i thought it was like Clan Cup where you can move but your Cup-tied if you played Cup in your previous clan.

If its true then it should have made Imran ineligible but if Keith follows the Cup in Killer then he would be eligible.

Keith allowed it though so must be a good reason behind it
faust
faust
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16:15 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  


You're incorrect.

Imran signed 25 days ago.

The Killer Cup matches were drawn over a month ago.

Keith explicitly said that you could only use players that were in the team BEFORE the initial draw was made, hence Imran was ineligible.



I wasn't fussed if they wasn't eligilble tbh, I mailed Keith to find out though, knowing that neither had played in the killer cup - and Keith mailed back saying Imran was and Nike wasn't. If anyone has any issues, I'm quite happy to replay the final!
faust
faust
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16:17 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Because they'd have a paddy if didn't get their own way, some would call it an Uprising or Mutiny.

Hope the Rules Next Season are Consistent for All.


Yay! For the 7th consecutive time, the most childish post of the season award goes to.........Ash!!! Congratulations!
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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16:20 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
You played an ineligible player should that have happened in a football match the team is usually disqualified. Same should apply here.

Well Done BS for finishing 2nd!!! As you said 'you wasn't fussed!'

No need for a replay or reply.
klien
klien
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16:36 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Overall it doesn't make that much difference, Ash, you need to stop being childish.

But Yes, Imran wasn't eligible. If Imran was eligible, that would have made me ineligible for every single game of the killer cup, meaning BS wouldn't have made the final.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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16:37 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
You played an ineligible player should that have happened in a football match the team is usually disqualified. Same should apply here.

Well Done BS for finishing 2nd!!! As you said 'you wasn't fussed!'

No need for a replay or reply.


Its the runners fault not faust's, if runner said no then they wouldn't play imran, runner allowed it so he was allowed to play.

One bug though is guys used to go on at me a lot by comparing Pool with Snooker but its okay to compare to another sport. *confused smiley*
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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16:37 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I wasn't fussed if they wasn't eligilble tbh, I mailed Keith to find out though, knowing that neither had played in the killer cup - and Keith mailed back saying Imran was and Nike wasn't. If anyone has any issues, I'm quite happy to replay the final!


I'm sure you would love a replay Stu
faust
faust
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16:41 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
You played an ineligible player should that have happened in a football match the team is usually disqualified. Same should apply here.

Well Done BS for finishing 2nd!!! As you said 'you wasn't fussed!'

No need for a replay or reply.


I know you're severely intellectually challenged, so I'll try to explain in the simplest terms possible. The league runner makes the rules of the competition. Before selecting any players, I asked the league runner who was eligible. I then selected my team from players the league runner said was eligible. Just for you, I'll use some moronic upper case shouting now and say NO-ONE that played was ineligible.

Now go cry about something other than not even making the killer final.
klien
klien
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16:44 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
NO-ONE that played was ineligible


Technically either Myself or Imran was ineligible.

I was in BS before the initial draw over a month ago, and was kicked afterwards, hence i could play the entire Killer Cup for BS.

Which means that surely because Imran wasn't in Uprising before the initial draw, he is ineligible...

Otherwise what stopped Ash from playing any of his new signings in the play-offs and what stopped Professionals from using any of theirs instead of Richie in the final. And what stopped BS from just signing a 5th player on the spot to play the Killer Cup Final?

Put Simply:
We both couldn't be eligible.
faust
faust
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16:59 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
NO-ONE that played was ineligible


Technically either Myself or Imran was ineligible.

I was in BS before the initial draw over a month ago, and was kicked afterwards, hence i could play the entire Killer Cup for BS.

Which means that surely because Imran wasn't in Uprising before the initial draw, he is ineligible...

Otherwise what stopped Ash from playing any of his new signings in the play-offs and what stopped Professionals from using any of theirs instead of Richie in the final. And what stopped BS from just signing a 5th player on the spot to play the Killer Cup Final?

Put Simply:
We both couldn't be eligible.


I'm not questioning any technicality, or interpretation of the rules. I'm merely saying that I'm happy to accept what the league runner tells me is legitimate. As far as I'm concerned, if the league runner says a player is eligible - then they are eligible.

If I'd selected my squad without verifying it first, I agree there would be a case. I had full permission to play Imran though, so whilst you may have an issue with the rules in situ - myself or Uprising played it by the book!
klien
klien
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18:45 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
NO-ONE that played was ineligible


Technically either Myself or Imran was ineligible.

I was in BS before the initial draw over a month ago, and was kicked afterwards, hence i could play the entire Killer Cup for BS.

Which means that surely because Imran wasn't in Uprising before the initial draw, he is ineligible...

Otherwise what stopped Ash from playing any of his new signings in the play-offs and what stopped Professionals from using any of theirs instead of Richie in the final. And what stopped BS from just signing a 5th player on the spot to play the Killer Cup Final?

Put Simply:
We both couldn't be eligible.


I'm not questioning any technicality, or interpretation of the rules. I'm merely saying that I'm happy to accept what the league runner tells me is legitimate. As far as I'm concerned, if the league runner says a player is eligible - then they are eligible.

If I'd selected my squad without verifying it first, I agree there would be a case. I had full permission to play Imran though, so whilst you may have an issue with the rules in situ - myself or Uprising played it by the book!


Yeah, like i said, it wouldnt have made much difference anyway. But you see my point. Would like to see Keith's view on this though.
faust
faust
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18:48 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  

Yeah, like i said, it wouldnt have made much difference anyway. But you see my point. Would like to see Keith's view on this though.


I more than see your point, I demand that the final is replayed!!!
klien
klien
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18:54 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  

Yeah, like i said, it wouldnt have made much difference anyway. But you see my point. Would like to see Keith's view on this though.


I more than see your point, I demand that the final is replayed!!!


Me too... surely 2/3 captains (or stand in captain for killer) gets to decide?
erigert
erigert
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19:04 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
You played an ineligible player should that have happened in a football match the team is usually disqualified. Same should apply here.

Well Done BS for finishing 2nd!!! As you said 'you wasn't fussed!'

No need for a replay or reply.


I love your sense of humour lately Ash! Keep it going
zantetsukenz
zantetsukenz
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19:24 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Next season I'd like to introduce Captain tests. Before each clan is entered into the league their captains and VC's must answer several simple questions about the rules which show they have read them, because frankly it is obvious none of the above have.

Ridiculous to argue about something so trivial, throwing around "they'd have a paddy", "you should be disqualified" and all that rubbish is pointless. It is a question of eligibility and the very first rule of the killer competition says all you need to know.

Imran was added 25 days ago, the final was released (not announced) 11 days ago. Why is he ineligible, it's the same as every single set in all the leagues and cups so why is there any confusion?
klien
klien
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19:27 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Next season I'd like to introduce Captain tests. Before each clan is entered into the league their captains and VC's must answer several simple questions about the rules which show they have read them, because frankly it is obvious none of the above have.

Ridiculous to argue about something so trivial, throwing around "they'd have a paddy", "you should be disqualified" and all that rubbish is pointless. It is a question of eligibility and the very first rule of the killer competition says all you need to know.

Imran was added 25 days ago, the final was released (not announced) 11 days ago. Why is he ineligible, it's the same as every single set in all the leagues and cups so why is there any confusion?


Because Keith has previously stated that only players in the teams before the initial first round killer matches were announced can play for that team in the rest of the Killer Cup.

Or is Keith not the league runner now?

Keith said:
I have messaged klien and he has been advised as he was in team list when the killer was released he is free to play in killer for Black Scorpions.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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20:00 Thu 30 Jul 15 (BST)  [Link]  
That doesn't say First Round though it just says teamlist when killer is released
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