The whole refugee 'crisis'

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erigert
erigert
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00:08 Wed 9 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
i never said it was did i? i was just saying france have started too, but one way or another this has to end.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34173983


The only way it should end is by stopping them from buying guns. They dont produce guns themselves cause theyre not powerful economically. Bombarding is never the solution.
quickshot
quickshot
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00:17 Wed 9 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
why buy guns when they already have them its too late for that
achpfsk
achpfsk
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11:46 Thu 10 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
As far as I am concerned there are no genuine refugees coming into Britain. Genuine refugees should seek asylum in the nearest safe country and Britain is one of the furthest away.
erigert
erigert
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12:32 Thu 10 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
So should every refugee stay in Turkey only cause its the nearest place? There are about 2 milion refugees staying in Turkey so its not that they are all coming in UK. But of course turkey and Lebanon cant host them all.
achpfsk
achpfsk
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15:34 Thu 10 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Then they make their way to the next country. The nearest country that can accommodate them. If all the countries have taken as many as they can and we are next on the agenda then we should take them in. They are skiping all the countries that should offer relief and coming straight into Europe, or more importantly, Britain.
_knightmare_
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16:23 Thu 10 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I agree, are Albania taking any in? I read that at least 500 Kosovo Albanians travel to Subotica (Serbia) daily and stay temporarily in Palic, then move on to Hungary and other EU nations.



The immigrants/asylum seekers are fleeing from: Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq & Eritrea

Most are within: Turkey, Lebanon, Hungary, Libya & Jordan

They want to go too: Sweden, Germany, Austria, UK, France & Greece.

My point is: There are far more other countries and places they can go too, Albania being one, places next to each other should offer their assistance instead of strengthening their resolve and saying NOT Welcome.

Why should the UK (our home) be held accountable when others countries are just in a way ushering them to us instead of taking them in themselves?

I have said IF we had the
Space,
Resources,
Financial Stability,
Job Prospects and the most important aspect
Guaranteed Security then we'd have no reasons to decline anyone.

We are the United Kingdom, here to help anyone but need to ensure our own people are looked after to a satisfactory standard before even contemplating helping others. Charity begins at home, I hope ALL countries realise this is a mass situation and we all need to help out as and where we can but not accept more than we can physically cope with. Germany have agreed to 55K and so has the UK - we don't have the SPACE!!

Now the EU President has said he's going to FORCE countries to accept 160K each,
erigert
erigert
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16:47 Thu 10 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Yeah true, Albania arent taking any cause they dont want to come here. Its hard enough to live in Albania for Albanians, let alone for Syrians. If u were in their place wouldnt u want to go to a better country and live better? Thats natural instincts.

And another thing to point out is that albania has never promised to a country that they will free them from tirany. If they did that they would be obliged to host their refugees.
faust
faust
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17:32 Thu 10 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Yeah true, Albania arent taking any cause they dont want to come here. Its hard enough to live in Albania for Albanians, let alone for Syrians. If u were in their place wouldnt u want to go to a better country and live better? Thats natural instincts.

And another thing to point out is that albania has never promised to a country that they will free them from tirany. If they did that they would be obliged to host their refugees.


I think we should send all the Albanians to Syria!!!
erigert
erigert
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22:54 Thu 10 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Yeah true, Albania arent taking any cause they dont want to come here. Its hard enough to live in Albania for Albanians, let alone for Syrians. If u were in their place wouldnt u want to go to a better country and live better? Thats natural instincts.

And another thing to point out is that albania has never promised to a country that they will free them from tirany. If they did that they would be obliged to host their refugees.


I think we should send all the Albanians to Syria!!!


Im up for it.
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06:34 Sat 12 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Alot things are going to happen in the next couple of years... Isis has a army of 50,000 troops.. There are tons other terror groups,,, But they all bow down to isis... Their goal is to end the world, Armageddon.. When will The World come together to stop this ... All the refugees going to all these countries u mentioned and the U.S. and it's well known that members of Isis is sneaking in with them... The real refugees do not want to leave their country or home.. They want to stay ,,, Why cant the United Nations come together and create a safe zone for all the refugees in their own country ,,, That is the real answer? That's what the refugees want and need ...Not be moved to another country and nor do the other countries want them...

Pray for them all and for the world ...
watchinawe
watchinawe
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14:05 Mon 14 Sep 15 (BST)  [Link]  
As far as I am concerned there are no genuine refugees coming into Britain. Genuine refugees should seek asylum in the nearest safe country and Britain is one of the furthest away.


This! People seem to have lost sight of the fact that once you bypass the 1st safe country you become an economic migrant.



Looks like Germany are starting to realise they can't cope with the influx

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/13/germany-to-close-borders-exit-schengen-emergency-measures

Edited at 11:08 Mon 14/09/15 (BST)
kris
kris
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13:57 Sun 22 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Alot things are going to happen in the next couple of years... Isis has a army of 50,000 troops.. There are tons other terror groups,,, But they all bow down to isis... Their goal is to end the world, Armageddon.. When will The World come together to stop this ... All the refugees going to all these countries u mentioned and the U.S. and it's well known that members of Isis is sneaking in with them... The real refugees do not want to leave their country or home.. They want to stay ,,, Why cant the United Nations come together and create a safe zone for all the refugees in their own country ,,, That is the real answer? That's what the refugees want and need ...Not be moved to another country and nor do the other countries want them...

Pray for them all and for the world ...


well, you got it spot on my man.

id say tht everyone who posted on here earlier, has a different view of things, NOW
kris
kris
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13:59 Sun 22 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
What a shame, tht Paris is not a member of fp ....
dgeneratio
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16:06 Sun 22 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Alot things are going to happen in the next couple of years... Isis has a army of 50,000 troops.. There are tons other terror groups,,, But they all bow down to isis... Their goal is to end the world, Armageddon.. When will The World come together to stop this ... All the refugees going to all these countries u mentioned and the U.S. and it's well known that members of Isis is sneaking in with them... The real refugees do not want to leave their country or home.. They want to stay ,,, Why cant the United Nations come together and create a safe zone for all the refugees in their own country ,,, That is the real answer? That's what the refugees want and need ...Not be moved to another country and nor do the other countries want them...

Pray for them all and for the world ...


well, you got it spot on my man.

id say tht everyone who posted on here earlier, has a different view of things, NOW


Not me I know they're refugees and if i was one i would run too but if i was the PM i wouldn't allow them into the country as IS are hiding among them.

Once they let IS into the country it was only a matter of time before something terrible happened. Heard they're targeting London next.
kris
kris
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16:21 Sun 22 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Alot things are going to happen in the next couple of years... Isis has a army of 50,000 troops.. There are tons other terror groups,,, But they all bow down to isis... Their goal is to end the world, Armageddon.. When will The World come together to stop this ... All the refugees going to all these countries u mentioned and the U.S. and it's well known that members of Isis is sneaking in with them... The real refugees do not want to leave their country or home.. They want to stay ,,, Why cant the United Nations come together and create a safe zone for all the refugees in their own country ,,, That is the real answer? That's what the refugees want and need ...Not be moved to another country and nor do the other countries want them...

Pray for them all and for the world ...


well, you got it spot on my man.

id say tht everyone who posted on here earlier, has a different view of things, NOW


Not me I know they're refugees and if i was one i would run too but if i was the PM i wouldn't allow them into the country as IS are hiding among them.

Once they let IS into the country it was only a matter of time before something terrible happened. Heard they're targeting London next.


Belgium was on top alert last nite. this is real....sadly.

Jack wrote this 2 months ago tho, and tihis is too true. stuff happened, ppl got killed...
kris
kris
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16:27 Sun 22 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
refugees....it could be sorted.
solution is simple, but it takes money. plenty of it to be honest.

EACH refugee, has to be fully, thoroughly checked up, before granted anything.

EU has messed it up with its demands sayin tht each country HAS to take in a certain number of them...knowing tht uk, france and other major countries have done tht already, in huuuge numbers, the just focused on just to "how to enforce it on other countries". security went through the window there. result happened a week ago.

Edited by forum moderator clifton188, at 15:01 Sun 22/11/15 (GMT)
kris
kris
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16:45 Sun 22 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
and tht post about Saudi Arabia having a mill ready made air conditioned refugee tents with zero attendance. keeps popping up on my facebook thread. LOL

and tht other video.. http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/13/watch-migrants-dislike-food-demand-tvs-threaten-go-back-syria/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

lol. 11 years ago, I went to England, with 150 pounds in my pocket. not knowing anything abaut what would happen. Had to work my bum off to make things work, and I managed to do that. And im proud of that.

Everyone deserves a chance, but u need to earn it and work for it, is my point.

jaysus, all tht abuse I got, bein called a polish **** and so on, wasn't easy. but the rewards are there, if u choose to take em. im still friends with them lads, took about 5-6 months for them to accept me. i smile and smirk, when i think about them ppl who tried me on all these years ago. and they r good ppl..

life is funny, but everyone deserves a chance.unless ur a terrorist, tht is...

it just shows tht anything is possible, if u really try
kris
kris
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17:39 Sun 22 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
this, Col.

blueberry
kris
kris
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17:43 Sun 22 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
Alot things are going to happen in the next couple of years... Isis has a army of 50,000 troops.. There are tons other terror groups,,, But they all bow down to isis... Their goal is to end the world, Armageddon.. When will The World come together to stop this ... All the refugees going to all these countries u mentioned and the U.S. and it's well known that members of Isis is sneaking in with them... The real refugees do not want to leave their country or home.. They want to stay ,,, Why cant the United Nations come together and create a safe zone for all the refugees in their own country ,,, That is the real answer? That's what the refugees want and need ...Not be moved to another country and nor do the other countries want them...

Pray for them all and for the world ...


well, you got it spot on my man.

id say tht everyone who posted on here earlier, has a different view of things, NOW


Not me I know they're refugees and if i was one i would run too but if i was the PM i wouldn't allow them into the country as IS are hiding among them.

Once they let IS into the country it was only a matter of time before something terrible happened. Heard they're targeting London next.


UK- wheres my tophat and cigar again....learned NOTHING from 7/7 and Lee Rigby
erigert
erigert
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00:43 Mon 23 Nov 15 (GMT)  [Link]  
The guy who killed in Paris was French with Algerian origins. So i dont see how refugees had a say in this.
Cant everyone see that ISIS is just trying to divide the world in two parts? That way it is easier to start another World War. So dont be fooled with everything the media says!
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