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horse10000
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22:27 Mon 8 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
FBL Season 15 - Set 1

Default information required for the following games by midnight on the 10th February:-

Dragon Flame Eminence A v Funky Pool Devils C

northman v blackcabman7


Pocket Dynamos A v Pocket Dynamos B

davyb0207 v walktall


Phoenix Revenge A v Phoenix Revenge B

rewill v tinie_v17


Funky Pool Devils B v Funky Pool Devils C

_fr34k_p0t_ v ric_flair


Dragon Flame Eminence A v Dragon Flame Eminence B

northman v dvz



Please can all clans ensure default information including messages, posts etc is submitted for all games, i have had a few posts advising what defaults should be, these may well be accurate but clans should be aware that if the same players are at fault for defaults on a number of occasions through out the season, ie. for not sending messages or making little or no effort to play it is logged and players face warnings etc.

Thanks
dgeneratio
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22:40 Mon 8 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
whats strange is 4/5 of those are clan vs clan
hippesville
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22:59 Mon 8 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
whats strange is 4/5 of those are clan vs clan


not so strange J, less chance of subs
_knightmare_
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23:14 Mon 8 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Not contesting the: rewill vs tinie_v17 one - they unfortunately played the wrong format and didn't complete the correct one after restarting. With both sides being in-house we decide to accept a 0-0 with this fixture the current score is 5-1 anyhow to Phoenix Revenge A. We appreciate both players efforts and thank them both for trying to rectify the simple error.

Very unfortunate but we are human, mistakes can happen from time to time.

Hope that's okay?
buckjam
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23:45 Mon 8 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Sorry but have we the luxery of handing out warnings to players on a site thats losing players not gaining them? I think the default score which is already a punishment for not getting the game done is sufficent, slapping wrists is pointless imo at this stage of Funky Pools life.

fr34k_p0t, ric_flair and cabbie do not leave games unplayed often if at all.

fr34k_p0t was off for 4 days and ric couldnt get hold of him

northman was off for a few days so cabbie couldnt get his game done.

Not at all bothered by the default scores for either as its pointless in this case. Hope that works
dgeneratio
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23:51 Mon 8 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
yeah we do take responsibility for northman.

in clan v clan, i don't take responsibility for though as had a chance to play it but didn't
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23:56 Mon 8 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
its still a default thou..whomever it may be against

either send in information or do not,relevant scores will be added i'm sure

it is a default noted against the teams involved whether info studied or not.
faust
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00:02 Tue 9 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
its still a default thou..whomever it may be against

either send in information or do not,relevant scores will be added i'm sure

it is a default noted against the teams involved whether info studied or not.


it's a flaw in the system as teams can abuse it to help out the team that stands the best chance of progression. The has to be some kind of penalty suffered if you can't even get 2 players in your own clan to complete a fixture.
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00:06 Tue 9 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Most of them are usually always active as well, so It's clearly obvious that they aren't making anywhere near the effort to get the games done vs their own team mates as they are against others.
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00:08 Tue 9 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Don't they all fail to get bonus points or is that scrapped now too?
dgeneratio
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00:10 Tue 9 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Most of them are usually always active as well, so It's clearly obvious that they aren't making anywhere near the effort to get the games done vs their own team mates as they are against others.


yeah in ours i heard its one sided but i messaged both night before deadline as both in killer and didn't get it done. i was a sub but no subs came on
dgeneratio
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00:11 Tue 9 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Don't they all fail to get bonus points or is that scrapped now too?


scrapped pal, fairly sure
faust
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00:11 Tue 9 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Dunno. They're only practice games for the FCL anyway!
dgeneratio
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00:13 Tue 9 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Dunno. They're only practice games for the FCL anyway!


doing us some good this set we know ending but made you work for it
horse10000
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00:19 Tue 9 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
There are 21 days to get games played, for games not to be played in that period teams should provide default information as to why not. Teams may well take responsibility for an inactive player etc or late subbing but to be fair to all teams the defaults need to be treated the same. Captains are responsible to provide default information for unplayed games.

I did find it poor that the majority of defaults were games which were against there own team as teams should be able to organise 2 of their own players to play.

With regards to logging responsibility for defaults and warnings to players who keep featuring this has been in leagues for a number of seasons but very few have ever had one probably down to the short length of leagues, and late subs covering the serial offenders.
dgeneratio
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00:23 Tue 9 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
it's a flaw in the system as teams can abuse it to help out the team that stands the best chance of progression. The has to be some kind of penalty suffered if you can't even get 2 players in your own clan to complete a fixture.


True, i did try though so fault lies on the players who chose not to play, the other was our fault entirely so our fault there
dgeneratio
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00:29 Tue 9 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I did find it poor that the majority of defaults were games which were against there own team as teams should be able to organise 2 of their own players to play.

yes true but i did message both my players who were playing Killer the night before, i couldn't stay as it was late, no excuses but was the players who chose not to play and waited for 5 hours to see if a sub would come on while organising other games through facebook which i didn't like doing but had to be done.

we could have subbed earlier but trusted the players to do it.
thegame26
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00:34 Tue 9 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
come on the Goats irrelevant post i know
zantetsukenz
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00:38 Tue 9 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I think it's still important to check with your players that there is something arranged days in advance of the deadline weekend. It seems like 4 clans have assumed they wouldn't have a default against themselves so left thugs too late.
buckjam
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00:41 Tue 9 Feb 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I think it's still important to check with your players that there is something arranged days in advance of the deadline weekend. It seems like 4 clans have assumed they wouldn't have a default against themselves so left thugs too late.


Yep. Didnt think i had an issue with ric and fr34k tbh. On all the time. Then fr34ks off for 4 days and your in the crap. If it had a baring on the league positions i would give a monkeys. As it doesnt and wont i will not waste more time on it.
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