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klien
klien
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16:39 Mon 14 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Looks a pretty simple solution to me.

Three people are needed, as i believe nobody will want to do it solo:

A moderator (zante or ab) to keep control and make those decisions.
TWO (yes two) active members who can do the job and have experience.

Members who can do this are:
dgeneratio
erigert
buckjam
knightmare

Feel free to add more.

In summary, I think we need three people, one mod and two regulars, only way this will be successful.
vixen_xox
vixen_xox
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16:49 Mon 14 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Possibly a mod and two regular, reliable, honest people from two different clans.
vixen_xox
vixen_xox
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16:50 Mon 14 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'd go for..

Zante
dgen
Bucky
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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17:06 Mon 14 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I would go for...

Zante - Active, Mod, Reliable, Knows Leagues inside out.
Ash - Not as the Main Runner (hate Head Runner lol) but updating like he does
Eri - Updating as well, done really well with the tables
Bucky - Always good to have backup and said willing to help

I'm not really cut out for the role as i'm too lazy to update most days, World Tour, been meaning to finish profile coding off for 32 players since last week and not got round to it as been relaxing.

Whoever new runner/helpers are, If they want me to create an automatic version of tables and golden cue then prepared to put in the graft to do it in Excel so then its easier on them to update.

One request though, i do like Keiths spreadsheet but when it is time for new game release its a pain to copy (quicker to do it manually typing games out). i can sort a forum pasting (no member tags) if new runner/helpers request it
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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17:09 Mon 14 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'd go for:

Zante
dgeneratio
horse10000

Assistants: buckjam, w_hoolahan, erigert (GC) & me

(Zante for Overall control - Dgen to set up his fantastic spreadsheets (live) maybe make the Clans website similar to the Funkypool World Tour. Horse10000 has done a great job - stands by his decisions and I think with some added support he'll be great to keep on board (if possible)

Assistants: We can keep the scores updated (separate league/comp each - so no treading on each others toes)

Just a thought.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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17:20 Mon 14 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Could work, question is would zante do it? I don't want to be a runner but as you said i can do code excel if needed.

I can even enhance things further by only showing the games a single clan has, similar to how stats in my tour works, all i do once its coded is change name of player and stats automatically change (which is why the coding can take weeks as its not manual). In this case it would search each match and then only show the clan entered with the matches.

Golden Cue and League Table works the same way, searching each match and adding results entered. Golden Cue even has its own Calculation Sheet as well as a Player List where you enter manually for the stats as it has to search every player in every match then add if its a match which is too long for one column.

You get the picture anyway, Once its done, you just need to remove clan names, players and names inbetween seasons after you kept records safe
the__priest
the__priest
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17:42 Mon 14 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Who does the updating on a regular basis
???????

There is the problem, I've said this many times
Too many people say there gunna do it

Who has updated all 3 leagues this season
On a regular basis, be honest daily, weekly or when you can be bothered

Sarah has she stepped up again this season
So she didn't leave Keith in the lurch
But she has had enough, never ever recognised except by Keith
she has updated nearly everything for many seasons, under Chris and others, not once has anyone recognised this

To many people want titles and do nothing, nothing at all
So please if your looking for people to spend a lot of their time doing updates, fixtures, golden cue and tables, along with dealing with the petty arguments and get nothing in return

Then the people who put their name forward need to understand the work required

You don't 3 need you need committed people to make it work

Sorry for the rant, but do people realise the work that is required

All the above didn't include cups, killer or players championship


The best you can do is ask Keith to stay and for once and for all cut the crap out of clans

I know which is easiest
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17:49 Mon 14 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Who does the updating on a regular basis
???????

There is the problem, I've said this many times
Too many people say there gunna do it

Who has updated all 3 leagues this season
On a regular basis, be honest daily, weekly or when you can be bothered

Sarah has she stepped up again this season
So she didn't leave Keith in the lurch
But she has had enough, never ever recognised except by Keith
she has updated nearly everything for many seasons, under Chris and others, not once has anyone recognised this

To many people want titles and do nothing, nothing at all
So please if your looking for people to spend a lot of their time doing updates, fixtures, golden cue and tables, along with dealing with the petty arguments and get nothing in return

Then the people who put their name forward need to understand the work required

You don't 3 need you need committed people to make it work

Sorry for the rant, but do people realise the work that is required

All the above didn't include cups, killer or players championship


The best you can do is ask Keith to stay and for once and for all cut the crap out of clans

I know which is easiest


Hear hear!
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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17:54 Mon 14 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Yup i know the work involved as i ran Snooker for Six Years (Had to take two seasons out for internet problems). Thats why i highlighted my laziness, i could say yay pick me and then i don't update until every 3-4 days at a time, it worked on Snooker but Pool i know it won't work so instead of being disappointed during the season, i spoke up because people believe i make a good Pool Runner when i know it isn't the case due to me wanting to relax more than update or code excel.

Always respected Runners/Helpers of the past, Sarah, Ash, Eri, Keith, Chris, Jay, Potty, Jan and anyone else who has updated the league deserves recognition and respect. They do updating for free and arguments over the years has driven them out one by one (except Chris and Jan) and i can't blame them.

Think reason i lasted long in Snooker is we rarely got an argument except close to defaults but you expect that. Pool has them almost daily and was worse before Staff took over the helm of the league
buckjam
buckjam
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18:12 Mon 14 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Hang on a minute. Now im not making out that running the whole thing and updating everything is a small job. Not at all. When do the captains get thanked? For running their teams and constantly updating the fixtures, chasing up players to get games done. Spending best part of the weekend on line to make sure everything gets done b4 deadline. There is stress involved captaining a team on what is just described as an online game. Best part of the time by people who are not runners or captains. They just come on and play their games if we are lucky. They dont do updates or organise subs and swaps. They can often be found moaning about how players were not available when they decided to come on and how much trouble it causes them. WOW.

Yeh there are some rows. Most of the time because people wont be made out to be mugs. They wouldnt tolerate being spoken to like crap in real life but on here it is deemed ok so as to not cause a stir. Nah. You put a 100 people in a room for 6 hrs and tell me they wouldnt be a row. Wrong. Its human nature to disagree.If it wasnt it would be a very boring world and pool site. Its called an opinion and everyone has one.

I would like to thank all the runners and people behind the scenes who work tirelessly to keep all the scores updated. Your all awesome.Well Done!!
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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18:18 Mon 14 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I echo the above: I'll extend a Well Done to ALL the other Captains too for all their hard work, dedication, determination to succeed & endeavour with getting all fixtures played and their teams operating as they should.

(YES - that includes you faust too )
derik_dalton
derik_dalton
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19:51 Tue 15 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
After further consulatations between a select panel, we have come to the following conclusion
dgeneratio has been voted as the new league runner, he can delegate duties to two assistants of his choice
Well done dgen
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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20:12 Tue 15 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Its down to Keith mate and I don't want to be a runner while I can do excel well, I'm too lazy to update much. Would I be accepted knowing this, I doubt it when others can do job better
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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20:22 Tue 15 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
If it is official though then i would accept the position but stand by what i said earlier about not being suitable to be runner, i would choose ash and eri as my assistants, while i would enforce rules and code excel well, i wouldn't update too much (every 3 days probably) and Ash and Eri have been good at updating.

Jamie and Harry could help too with updating if they wish
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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20:27 Tue 15 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
Nothing has been agreed - like you've said it's down to horse10000 and him only. This is coming from derik_dalton - take it with a huge pinch of salt.
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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20:32 Tue 15 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
yep i have mate, i think keith would be making a mistake by choosing me if i'm honest, knowing my weaknesses. i have snooker experience for sure (longest runner in history of both sites) but on snooker you can get away with not updating for a few days. pool not sure but i know i wouldn't be too motivated to update 3 leagues. i have the motivation to code as got my tour and two mini games (Tanks, Infected in Excel Development) but updating usually like playing in tournaments i lack in motivation.
letsgochamp
letsgochamp
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20:36 Tue 15 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
I'll do it for a small fee of £300,000
faust
faust
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20:39 Tue 15 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
derik_dalton has never been involved in prolific tactical subbing, or blatant manipulation of the rules. He's never knowingly recruited banned players, or deliberately mislead people. He has no clan affiliation, and doesn't suffer fools gladly. I think he's the clear choice. I would pick fatmikee and koko as his assistants.

This triumvirate of power seems at least equally credible to any other team suggested so far!
_knightmare_
_knightmare_
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20:43 Tue 15 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
It was only a matter of time before you turned what appeared to be a genuine & mature conversation personal - well done faust.
faust
faust
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20:53 Tue 15 Mar 16 (GMT)  [Link]  
It was only a matter of time before you turned what appeared to be a genuine & mature conversation personal - well done faust.


Yes. Incredibly genuine and mature it was! lol

Last 3 posts...

"I'll do it for a small fee of £300,000"

"i have the motivation to code as got my tour and two mini games (Tanks, Infected in Excel Development) "

"This is coming from derik_dalton - take it with a huge pinch of salt"

I can tell why in your little World this seems like a very mature conversation!

I think you'll find questioning the integrity of potential league runners is not in the least bit immature, or personal. League runners in the past like Keith and Chris have been the type of person beyond question. There's never ever been any mud thrown at them to stick. The league needs someone cut from the same cloth.
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