i think this is a joke a captain can pick who he wants in a team if a top player has been having a bad patch he may be dropped if then he gets subbed in cause match needs to be played and wins u get told its a tactical sub the team a captain picks and subs is up to him and how he or she uses them

Everyone will now hold back their better players until 'crunch time', I can only see this backfiring after thinking about it since my last posts. A limit on the amount of subs and they have to be validated and verified by a 'select panel', otherwise this will destroy the essence of being part of a clan.

The lesser teams will NEVER stand a chance, which will probably help to encourage players to leave and them to fold, I'd hate for that to happen.

Something seriously needs to be implemented I feel. No swaps should be allowed at all (I've learnt my lesson), ruins the whole process in sending in the team sheets, which I agree with angry_bacon on.

What i cant get my head around is how the serial offender for this meeps calling for a cap on subs etc.

People should play for fun as realistically there are 2 and at a push 3 clans that can win the league and the rest are doing their best for 3rd or 4th spot or to cause an upset.

This in all honesty should not even be an issue but sadly there are too many captains that take an online pool game way too seriously and also show that they lack integrity by their actions.

I hope you weren't implying me? I made 1 BIG mistake the other day and I have recognized my fault/mistake and will not make the same 'daft' action again.

No ash as if you read an earlier post i was singing your praises as you had the testicular fortitude to apologise for the 1 mistake you have made. 99.9 percent of people will know who i am talking about

Edited at 17:53 Wed 17/07/13 (BST)

it will all go too far and ruin it if it isnty capped, with regards to players being named, and the better ones benched and ready to sub in, i dont see that a s a major problem, the majority of the players being subbed out would leave, the players being subbed in wouldnt lioke to step on others toes, and the captains in the majority wouldnt do this anyway.

im offering a soloution, no doubt it will be slagged off but anyway here goes.
The captain submits his team from 1- 8 for the fcl matches, however the numbers are not seed and he can do it anyway he likes, the opposing captain does the same , these are the numbers that the players will play against each other, obviously not in any order.Players can only move up or down the ladder one place in the need for substitution, so say mad_matt id unbeatables number 6 he can only play 5,6, or 7 if they need a sub. Maximum of 1 or 2 subs. and a player can only move once.
it would be common sense for captains to seperate players from the same awkward time zones , so if they have 2 aussies put them at 2 and 8 for example.

Does it rhyme with cuts?

I thought it was an open and shuts case

Clan leagues have been going a long time now and subs/swaps at anytime has never been an issue, captains could always keep out their best players and sub them in, if their best players are their most reliable its best to keep them out as they make perfect reliable subs to ensure games get played, thats up to them, its just recently that certain captains have waited for fixtures to come out then make changes on day one to suit their clans, obvious opponent choosing, this is what needs stopped, I think some of you are forgetting whats caused this debate, its not the amount of subs/swaps, the more the merrier for avoiding defaults I say, its captains jiggling with the fixtures as soon as they are released which is the problem, this is what needs looked at.

In the end it's down to a few captains.

And what's this crap about "tactical subbing"? In ANY game or sport or competition, if you are down, you do your best to win the game. If you are up, you do your best to stay ahead. Why shouldn't I sub pete in, regardless of whether anyone has internet problems or not? He is part of Snooker Squad and perfectly entitled to play in the match. Not subbing him in would just be plain stupid.

Picking your opponents on the other hand is crap (other than to avoid conflicts). Right now we're down to captains abusing the flexibility of the rules and causing this discussion.

Edited by forum moderator ab_rfc, at 00:17 Thu 18/07/13 (BST)

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Edited at 00:27 Thu 18/07/13 (BST)

Just an idea: How about incorporating a league table for 'EVENTS ONLY'? Might give more incentive for players to achieve as many as possible in any given season, would increase the competitiveness and everyone who records an events will feel part of the league. The Top 'EVENTER' could be awarded a trophy for their profile page or even a medallion etc.

Could have a top 20 or so?

Just a way to increase the amount of players joining clans as well tbh.

What do people think?

New Rule Implemented

This is a some what rare occurrence when a rule is implemented during an on going season but at this present moment i think it is needed and i have the backing of some clan members also. This idea was originally posted by ab_rfc and after some talks and things it will be implemented as of the next fixture set in just over a weeks time. (If this does not work then it will be removed + new rule in bold).





Please remember this is a trial and this will start as of the next fixture set.

Captains who agree on a sub/swap within those five days will need to post saying so on the official substitutions thread.

Thanks

7.5 Substitutions in partially played games
Once a game has started between two players, no substitution may be made, unless a player has been banned/deactivates or is removed from a clan. According to rules froggy should be removed from clan for FCL ?

He has been

Yeah he has been removed, by a league issue. I have not had time to remove him from Black Magics team on the website though, but will do later on

And Jay I would like full justification of as to why I have been banned....

why kermit banned