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beenjammin
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16:20 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
Shouldnt reward gbs there is no skill involved


agree they shouldnt be offered, run outs yes gbs no


Here here!
beenjammin
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16:21 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
Shouldnt reward gbs there is no skill involved


agree they shouldnt be offered, run outs yes gbs no


Although Seven balling isn't an event I do feel that should also be offered instead of gbs.


even better
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16:22 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
Shouldnt reward gbs there is no skill involved


agree they shouldnt be offered, run outs yes gbs no


Although Seven balling isn't an event I do feel that should also be offered instead of gbs.


even better


Agreed haha, a seven balling like a run out is a skill
ab_rfc
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16:25 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
is it lol easier to get and happens more often than a gb tho

Edited at 16:28 Fri 11/01/13 (GMT)
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16:26 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
is it lol


More so than a pixelated gb?
fuunky
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16:31 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
Golden breaks are pure luck, so I don't see why people should be rewarded for it. It's harsh enough losing a point to a golden break lol!
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16:36 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
Golden breaks are pure luck, so I don't see why people should be rewarded for it. It's harsh enough losing a point to a golden break lol!


For people who achieve golden breaks frequently they are not pure luck. They have an ability to carry out the shot required which others can't do to the same consistancy as them. Which means skill is involved
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16:39 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
Shouldnt reward gbs there is no skill involved


agree they shouldnt be offered, run outs yes gbs no


Although Seven balling isn't an event I do feel that should also be offered instead of gbs.


even better


Agreed haha, a seven balling like a run out is a skill


So a 9 ball golden break is a fluke, yet if a player uses the golden break, pots a ball and the 9 has sat perfectly in the jaws with one ball in front of it to knock it in that is skill and not luck?
fuunky
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16:46 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
Of course It's luck obviously no skill, but flukeball is mainly luck anyway.

Just my opinion that a golden break is a fluke shot and an undeserved win, who gets golden breaks regular in all game types.
beenjammin
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16:49 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
Seems to me that even with the people who know the right shot, and get golden breaks relatively often, they still only succeed a small percentage of the time. So yeah I'd call a golden break a fluke.
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17:01 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
So should a player that flukes a ball on the way to a run out get the bonus point ?

Edited at 17:05 Fri 11/01/13 (GMT)
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17:02 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
Seems to me that even with the people who know the right shot, and get golden breaks relatively often, they still only succeed a small percentage of the time. So yeah I'd call a golden break a fluke.


Agreed. But so too, to a large extent, are Run Outs. Leaving aside 9 Ball, in UK8 players players have various breaks that supposedly give them a better chance of achieving a Run Out. Even with those breaks the Run Out only happens some times, not every time, and will largely be down to luck how the balls have split, or luck somewhere else during the run.

A clan competition ideally is an inclusive experience for all players. Anyone of any standard can get a Golden Break or a Run Out and achieve something positive for their team. But realistically not everyone is going to be able to be competetive overall in a longer format match.
beenjammin
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17:10 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
So should a player that flukes a ball on the way to a run out get the bonus point ?

Edited at 17:05 Fri 11/01/13 (GMT)


lol, then they were lucky of course, but at least one lucky shot didnt end it, they had to demonstrate skill as well, by completing the runout
beenjammin
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17:13 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
In response to Chris
I can see the logic in that, raise the luck factor, level the playing field.
I just prefer the format that most accurately appoints the winner.

edit:about anyone being able to get the breaks and runouts, that's true, but I think most would agree, the better players get runouts a lot more often, when that's not always the case with golden breaks

Edited at 17:17 Fri 11/01/13 (GMT)
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17:14 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
I can see the logic in that, raise the luck factor, level the playing field.
I just prefer the format that most accurately appoints the winner.


OK you will be giving back last seasons FCL title straight away then?
fuunky
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17:16 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
Wouldn't it be worth having a vote. It would be interesting to see how many people are in favour of it.
beenjammin
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17:19 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
I can see the logic in that, raise the luck factor, level the playing field.
I just prefer the format that most accurately appoints the winner.


OK you will be giving back last seasons FCL title straight away then?


Of course not!, we won the most frames did we not? (in my opinion that's justice)
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17:22 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
Yes if you count the 2 x 15-0 defaults as winning most frames.

Not discussing the rights or wrong of that though. Yes the best team should win and be rewarded - there are many ways how you can get there along the way though.
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17:28 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
The clan league sign up

Professionals (provisionally)
Chips n Gravy
Vipers
Elite force
Fighting Eagles
The Sinners
Uprising
Underdogs
Unbeatables
Snooker Squad
Dark Destroyers
mouseketeers


To bring this back to the League launch. I think the above is the latest list of entrants.

Please can you send your team lists to me when you have them so that provisionally the league will be able to commence on Sunday January 20th.
beenjammin
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17:32 Fri 11 Jan 13 (GMT)  [Link]  
Wouldn't it be worth having a vote. It would be interesting to see how many people are in favour of it.

I like, what do you say league runners?
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