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dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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13:50 Tue 23 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
same klein, even once every 2 hours may bring normal games back what the game has been lacking. At the moment it is bad enough that 90% i only log in to play friends or league games, 5% are super or CBY tournaments and other 5% is play anyone. Only see a couple of rooms per type (if that), miss the days where you struggle to enter chat room and plenty of rooms (at least 5+ per type) so have a good time.

its dull nowadays and micros wouldn't benefit.
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13:58 Tue 23 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I've said it loads of times, never going to happen, the majority of people that are left seem to be 2 obsessed with tournaments.
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19:42 Tue 23 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
It can't be just be who thinks the micro tournaments are redundant. I never play them and if i do, there is hardly ever another player entered into it. The micro tournaments don't even offer tournapoints, and rightly so, considering how easy they are to win.

Why not just take it back to old school funkypool days when we just had one tournament on the hour, every hour.

I miss the days when we had 32+ people in every single tournament.


agree with everything you said, i think micros should be scrapped and tournys back to every hour and not be ranked, also the ranking system should go back to how it used to be, i think then there will be more ranked games and more people joining tournys and make them worth winning.
klien
klien
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00:56 Wed 24 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Absolutely spot on.

Micro's dont benefit anything or anyone, they should definitely be removed.

Tournaments ranked or unranked doesn't really bother me, but it definitely should be reduced to one an hour, or even one every two hours...
the__priest
the__priest
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10:35 Thu 25 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
yup
keep killing the site

always the same people crying about tournaments
stopping or reducing them

BUT NEVER IN PLAY THEM
if you don't play them don't crib
admin got rid of micro tournament points after the last bout of GREAT IDEAS, there was a mass decline in day time pool, guess what was there more ranked games
NO !
so did it work no
did it ever go back to how it was no
so many users who found them fun where penalised
by a minority
Baff you never explained why it didn't work
and why it was never returned to how it was
it clearly didn't work

now people who don't play in them want to wreck the others to

truly funny about playing ranked games, most of you keep harping on about them, they've gone clans have seen to that

congratulations to everyone

stop being rude
beef up security
make it easier to log in (sort java make it more compatible)
stop banned users from re-joining for their banned period
mute everyone who causes arguments on threads or who is involved
and that includes me

when you read clan threads
Applause to Everyone

a great experience for all new members

I would suggest keeping the tournaments on 13 hours schedule
so people can play a game choice at times it suits them

micros have 2 every hour
40 ranked points
(this helps people who cant win tournaments achieve something)

(micros have next to no participation now, before they were always occupied)

keep the reverse tournaments to they are fun
klien
klien
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12:10 Thu 25 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
If you have 2 micros every hour that award tournapoints then the bigger tournaments became redundant to play also. Would be easier to win 80 points from the micros every hour.

Scrap the micros, have one big tournament every hour.
If everyone is so big on ranked games, bring in another incentive to play them, will get back to you when I figure out what that could be (maybe some kind of daily/weekly medal for that too?)
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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12:47 Thu 25 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Craig saying i don't think micros aren't going to work is NOT rude but my own opinion, i respect your opinion that you like micros and want them back and i think they could be a success so respect mine instead of talking in Japanese.

however guests also want to play this site and if we have tournaments every minute of every day, 99/100 in tournaments, guest can only play 1/100 they leave and find something else to do.

we need to accommodate normal game rooms as much as tournaments which is why i proposed having a tournament every one-two hours may finish them early which is a bonus as more game rooms are made and guests can play more.

your right, i don't play in many, why? because they aren't worth the prestige anymore except the Super Tournaments which i enter if i have time.

Also i've never cared about rank, only time was when i need 850 in main three types to join my dream clan at the time other than that, not cared much. Same with Tournaments, 3k tournapoints and under 50 tournaments in my time here speaks volumes

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Klein, maybe a ranking bonus on Super Events? or even 3 times the ranking of normal rank games? Plus a very own Platinum Medal or something special
ummagumma
ummagumma
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14:58 Thu 25 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
I see the micro tournaments more as per-prepared ranked games and a stop gap between the main tournaments. The fact you can win one without even entering says a fair bit about their popularity and prestige, but i honestly feel without them there would be even less ranked games being played.

This may be controversial, but one way to get more games on the go would be to have tournament only games! This would instantly bulk up tournaments as there would be no ranked or friendly game rooms! This would bulk up the chat room as to be online you're either in chat or in a tournament - win win. All practice tables available.

Clans pay premium to unlock player vs player
non-ranked games.

To gain rank it's tournament play only!



Edited at 15:06 Thu 25/06/15 (BST)
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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15:31 Thu 25 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
respect your opinion mate but to play friends or clan games i have to pay premium? If that was to happen i would be on much less. clans and friends are what keeps me going.

no doubts it won't happen though as the core will always be free
ummagumma
ummagumma
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15:36 Thu 25 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
It won't happen
klien
klien
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22:24 Thu 25 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
For me, the only way to go is scrapping the micro tournaments.

The more players you get per main tournament the more it draws others to the site. The reason i started playing back in 2008 was because tournaments offered a massive challenge... there was around 50+ players in each tournament.

Scrap micros, add better incentives to play normal ranked games and tournament ranked games.
ummagumma
ummagumma
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23:18 Thu 25 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
For me, the only way to go is scrapping the micro tournaments.

The more players you get per main tournament the more it draws others to the site. The reason i started playing back in 2008 was because tournaments offered a massive challenge... there was around 50+ players in each tournament.

Scrap micros, add better incentives to play normal ranked games and tournament ranked games.


Please post a rough schedule mate, would be interested to see how you would mix the rest of the disciplines minus the micros.

Take a look at my first posts and paste the times or your own times. Remember marathons, speed, mulch-discipline etc. I have no arcade tournaments as main on the hour tournaments.in my proposed list, maybe the main exclusion, but do include them for micros.
the__priest
the__priest
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04:13 Fri 26 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
For me, the only way to go is scrapping the micro tournaments.

The more players you get per main tournament the more it draws others to the site. The reason i started playing back in 2008 was because tournaments offered a massive challenge... there was around 50+ players in each tournament.

Scrap micros, add better incentives to play normal ranked games and tournament ranked games.


ranked games have gone
people blame tournaments

explain how, you don't play many tournaments if any
so explain your findings

ranked games are a thing of the past

the way to play theses days is to play tournaments
take them away, it will be the end

not many people play ranked games, it isn't going to happen
the__priest
the__priest
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04:50 Fri 26 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
the thread title is proposed tournament schedule
not harp on about ranked games thread

you can blame anything you want for ranked games not being played:
here are a few

there is next to no ranked game rooms with people in them
so says it all really, people aren't to bothered

killer rooms are very busy late evening
why because people like to play in them

tournaments are one of the busiest parts of the game
why because people like to play in them

clans do well and always have games
why because people like to play in them

so instead of cribbing about get rid of something that works,
how about looking at bringing more members to the site
increase traffic

what will happen there,
new players cant log in
new players read forums the greatest advert for new players, deal with what we have, not what isn't going to be

there are 2 many clan games that's simple enough to see
when people harp on about the old days
there was one league only, it stares you in the face

now there are
3 leagues
cups
individual championships
killer tournaments
16 players in a team

go back to one league, one cup
reduce team numbers

more teams more players waiting on games
COULD HELP RANKED GAMES
less hassle trying to get games played
MAKES THREADS BETTER
makes more sense than anything posted
but hey James that's my opinion
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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09:49 Fri 26 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
and in your own words this isn't harp on about clan threads

"so instead of cribbing about get rid of something that works,
how about looking at bringing more members to the site
increase traffic"

I have tried by form of a Facebook Group and have 60+ members already and asked guys to Share so their friends can see it.

I have also made the Snooker League easier by making most things automatic (tables, golden cue etc) by formulas.

Except for a few (Sarah, Keith, Chris, Budweiser and Staff) i perhaps do more for this site than anyone else

Regarding Leagues i agree, too many although Snooker is struggling and we only have one league and one cup (6 games max, 10 members). I would scrap the Super League as much as i like the playing style surrounding it and keep FCL and FBL which is popular.

We have always respected Pool Leagues which is why we never added a second clan league as most snooker players play on pool too.

Tournaments because we don't play in them doesn't mean we can't have an opinion. I could enter the afternoon ones if it was as popular as years ago (16+ members minimum) but less than 8 loses its prestige, especially in the main ones. three in wednesdays 11 pm (earliest i could go back), thats what i call not working but the peak time seems to be 6 pm until about 11 pm and has at least 5-7 which isn't bad but could be better, saw 11 in one of them so not bad either.
the__priest
the__priest
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11:35 Fri 26 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
if you look at the decline of site members it speaks volumes
just over 4ooo active members now

leave the site alone, you unfortunately can not revive it

the revenue stream if everyone paid a tenner
which they don't and not many do, or have any intention to do so, also combines with the massive decline in numbers

would only generate £40k max, I can never see an amount of people who subscribe to the site

I guess less than 500, £5k a year

and people demand improvements and advertising and get it going, blaming tournaments, everything.
look no further than yourself and people who don't contribute, nothing in life is free and like most things when its gone its gone

stop the bleating, about this and that, give Nick the resources to promote the site and applaud admin and mods
for giving their time FREE to help this site

FREE lol that's the route cause, will renew my membership
tomorrow, will you do it and many more and give the site a chance

Edited by forum moderator zantetsukenz, at 12:37 Fri 26/06/15 (BST)
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11:51 Fri 26 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Try and remember Craig, like you said this is just an online game, who would of thought it the way you go on?
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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11:52 Fri 26 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Craig the £10 you pay are for the cost of adverts only and not for profit you seem to think it is. It is the same revenue and will continue to say so unless admin correct me. The £10 is to cover the loss of no adverts which is the root cause of a profit.

Ask Youtubers if you don't believe me, the only way nick would lose money is if people blocked the ads without paying, for every member who does that, nick loses money from advert revenue and display them.

Thats why Youtubers ask subscribers NOT to block adverts as they depend on that money to make remixes or other things and nick would be dependant on that money too.

Sorry mate but for me £10 is for 5 or 6 cues, not worth it, same revenue if you pay or not, makes no difference
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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11:59 Fri 26 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
the__priest said:
if you look at the decline of site members it speaks volumes
just over 4ooo active members now

leave the site alone, you unfortunately can not revive it


Nope i will continue with the Facebook Group thanks, you support by paying £10 which you feel is supporting the site and enter 50,000 tournaments a year, i contribute by making Snooker Clan League as good as it can be and by doing a Community Group so i'm contributing to the site as well in my own way. Many guys respect me for my abilities on the table and what i have done for clan leagues for funky. Your in the minority who don't and thats fine, always good to have fans

Over Xmas and few months since my return i learned to respect you more on the forum (always respected your ability on the table) but now i realise it was a mistake and second chances aren't a reality

Edited by forum moderator zantetsukenz, at 12:39 Fri 26/06/15 (BST)
dgeneratio
dgeneratio
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12:01 Fri 26 Jun 15 (BST)  [Link]  
Try and remember Craig, like you said this is just an online game, who would of thought it the way you go on?


Yup i was obsessed with this site for years, i admit it and acted the way he does now but evolved into a better person because of it and respect banter for what it is.
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