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21:28 Fri 30 Jan 15 (GMT) [Link]
FCL Season 24
I think, unless there are some extraordinary results in the remaining games, the Split has taken place.
Therefore the Fixture Set 5 will be...
Division 1
The Professionals v Unbeatables
Uprising v XVth Man
Division 2
Pool Sharks v FPD
The Revolution v Pocket Dynamos
Please can I have team lists for these games by Sunday afternoon (5pm UK).
I think, unless there are some extraordinary results in the remaining games, the Split has taken place.
Therefore the Fixture Set 5 will be...
Division 1
The Professionals v Unbeatables
Uprising v XVth Man
Division 2
Pool Sharks v FPD
The Revolution v Pocket Dynamos
Please can I have team lists for these games by Sunday afternoon (5pm UK).
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22:27 Fri 30 Jan 15 (GMT) [Link]
Oh so you do split the league lol...was a good idea then
22:06 Sat 31 Jan 15 (GMT) [Link]
Instead of the current system where one team is quite entitled to sub out a weak player and put in a stronger player if they are losing.
Is that wrong? Although its hopefully a friendly League and there's no prizes at stake, I would still like to think its competitive in a good way.
I would certainly make a sub in that scenario if the outcome mattered in some way. I am pretty sure so would anyone else if they truly believed they had a 'better' player available.
This is where there is a major difference between clans and is something that has to be accepted and understood. In some clans every player is of a reasonably comparable standard so it doesn't matter who plays, but for others there can be a big difference in abilities and so using your best players to their best advantage makes absolute sense IF you want to do the best you can.
In both of our preferred proposals posted though, we are giving the original players the chance unhindered to complete their match against their original opponent. If that isn't taken through choice, lack of own effort or circumstances outside their control then it moves onto the secondary option of unilateral subbing and/or defaults.
Nope as my players are my friends, I wouldn't remove them from games without being told to by them or for a good reason.
If I was in a clan and was removed for no reason I'd leave. As I'm sure my players would too.
Instead of the current system where one team is quite entitled to sub out a weak player and put in a stronger player if they are losing.
Is that wrong? Although its hopefully a friendly League and there's no prizes at stake, I would still like to think its competitive in a good way.
I would certainly make a sub in that scenario if the outcome mattered in some way. I am pretty sure so would anyone else if they truly believed they had a 'better' player available.
This is where there is a major difference between clans and is something that has to be accepted and understood. In some clans every player is of a reasonably comparable standard so it doesn't matter who plays, but for others there can be a big difference in abilities and so using your best players to their best advantage makes absolute sense IF you want to do the best you can.
In both of our preferred proposals posted though, we are giving the original players the chance unhindered to complete their match against their original opponent. If that isn't taken through choice, lack of own effort or circumstances outside their control then it moves onto the secondary option of unilateral subbing and/or defaults.
Nope as my players are my friends, I wouldn't remove them from games without being told to by them or for a good reason.
If I was in a clan and was removed for no reason I'd leave. As I'm sure my players would too.
22:07 Sat 31 Jan 15 (GMT) [Link]
Anyways on the question that was asked, pds have voted and 9 players have said yes to a change in subs.
As thats a majority no need to prolong posting.
As thats a majority no need to prolong posting.
12:35 Mon 2 Feb 15 (GMT) [Link]
I do think if clans do not put in there clan lists before Sunday there should be some kind of penalty.
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FCL - Fixture Set 5
Games can be found here...
http://funkypoolclanleagues.weebly.com/fcl-fixture-set-5.html
Deadline for all games is Midnight UK on 15th February 2015
Games can be found here...
http://funkypoolclanleagues.weebly.com/fcl-fixture-set-5.html
Deadline for all games is Midnight UK on 15th February 2015
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13:19 Mon 2 Feb 15 (GMT) [Link]
What sort of penalty? A point deficit?
I do think if clans do not put in there clan lists before Sunday there should be some kind of penalty.
What sort of penalty? A point deficit?
13:35 Mon 2 Feb 15 (GMT) [Link]
What sort of penalty? A point deficit?
Generally the penalty is the last teamlist or alphabetically
I do think if clans do not put in there clan lists before Sunday there should be some kind of penalty.
What sort of penalty? A point deficit?
Generally the penalty is the last teamlist or alphabetically
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13:40 Mon 2 Feb 15 (GMT) [Link]
What sort of penalty? A point deficit?
Generally the penalty is the last teamlist or alphabetically
Is that a penalty though? They are still getting to put out a team, which they were unable/too lazy to submit themselves.
If we all did that, we might as well all submit one list a season to chris, and then sub/swap when the fixtures come out
I do think a penalty should be given, maybe not a points deficit, as that effects all others in the league directly, maybe taking one fixture away at random, so they automatically start at a loss.
This would be easier in FBL/SL, where it is only 2 points, but in the FCL giving a team a 15-0 headstart would be quite an advantage.
But maybe it would make sure teams entered their lists?
I do think if clans do not put in there clan lists before Sunday there should be some kind of penalty.
What sort of penalty? A point deficit?
Generally the penalty is the last teamlist or alphabetically
Is that a penalty though? They are still getting to put out a team, which they were unable/too lazy to submit themselves.
If we all did that, we might as well all submit one list a season to chris, and then sub/swap when the fixtures come out
I do think a penalty should be given, maybe not a points deficit, as that effects all others in the league directly, maybe taking one fixture away at random, so they automatically start at a loss.
This would be easier in FBL/SL, where it is only 2 points, but in the FCL giving a team a 15-0 headstart would be quite an advantage.
But maybe it would make sure teams entered their lists?
13:57 Mon 2 Feb 15 (GMT) [Link]
Chapster: I do think a penalty should be given, maybe not a points deficit, as that effects all others in the league directly, maybe taking one fixture away at random, so they automatically start at a loss.
This would be easier in FBL/SL, where it is only 2 points, but in the FCL giving a team a 15-0 headstart would be quite an advantage.
But maybe it would make sure teams entered their lists?
Me: Still same difference really between them as Automatic Loss still can have an impact on the league.
Maybe lose 3 points (FCL), 1 Point (FBL) and not sure on Super League. Its a small loss which wouldn't have much impact but miss many lists and it could be a big price.
This would be easier in FBL/SL, where it is only 2 points, but in the FCL giving a team a 15-0 headstart would be quite an advantage.
But maybe it would make sure teams entered their lists?
Me: Still same difference really between them as Automatic Loss still can have an impact on the league.
Maybe lose 3 points (FCL), 1 Point (FBL) and not sure on Super League. Its a small loss which wouldn't have much impact but miss many lists and it could be a big price.
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14:04 Mon 2 Feb 15 (GMT) [Link]
FCL: Potentially start with a 3 points deficit, but that wold have to come off a random game, as you can't have the total still being 120. Maybe knock a point off each fixture, so it's 12 points deficit to start. But then you have to work out game type to take it off etc lol. That is why i think just remove one person from the fixture, then if it is a repeat offender, remove more players etc.
This would affect the league quite harshly on other teams, especially towards the end of a season when people can't be bothered, lack of activity etc.
In the FBL, just removing 1 person from the fixture should be ok and maybe same for the SL, as the amount of points won does not affect the league, its just whether the team wins or not.
This would affect the league quite harshly on other teams, especially towards the end of a season when people can't be bothered, lack of activity etc.
In the FBL, just removing 1 person from the fixture should be ok and maybe same for the SL, as the amount of points won does not affect the league, its just whether the team wins or not.
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14:07 Mon 2 Feb 15 (GMT) [Link]
Whereas I'd usually say a penalty should be applied, that's normally a random selection but they can amend as they deem fit afterwards. That kind of diffuses the whole randomness punishment.
On the other hand it's less than 24 Hours so really is there any need to punish? Who has it really hurt? Nobody is the answer.
All I keep reading at the moment is: should we do this, that etc, punish this, rubbish. Rules are great but IF keep thinking about adding new ones then that in itself will reduce the fun from within the leagues.
We ain't at School, don't need Rules for Everything IMO.
***BREAKING NEWS***
"Fixtures been posted and I ain't made any subs yet, see in Rocky Balboa's words 'if I can change, you can change, we ALL can change '
On the other hand it's less than 24 Hours so really is there any need to punish? Who has it really hurt? Nobody is the answer.
All I keep reading at the moment is: should we do this, that etc, punish this, rubbish. Rules are great but IF keep thinking about adding new ones then that in itself will reduce the fun from within the leagues.
We ain't at School, don't need Rules for Everything IMO.
***BREAKING NEWS***
"Fixtures been posted and I ain't made any subs yet, see in Rocky Balboa's words 'if I can change, you can change, we ALL can change '
14:09 Mon 2 Feb 15 (GMT) [Link]
Nah they just start at -3 instead of 0, taking away a random fixture can be degrading for a player who has tried their best.
Taking away a random fixture is -15 for FCL, -2 for FBL, not sure on Super League but harsh and can have a BIG impact on the tables where their is a title race.
Little to start with (e.g. -3 before fixture starts) then as they don't send in lists it gradually gets bigger.
Only thing i can see working from your point of view is removing points from that clan only then its only your clan that suffers as you go down the ladder
Taking away a random fixture is -15 for FCL, -2 for FBL, not sure on Super League but harsh and can have a BIG impact on the tables where their is a title race.
Little to start with (e.g. -3 before fixture starts) then as they don't send in lists it gradually gets bigger.
Only thing i can see working from your point of view is removing points from that clan only then its only your clan that suffers as you go down the ladder
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14:10 Mon 2 Feb 15 (GMT) [Link]
I am not saying it has hurt anyone, or affected anyone, but it is being lazy beyond belief.
And I am not just saying it because it is against my team, I couldn't care who I play anyways etc, but teams are told several times about fixture lists.
Maybe a little enforcement isn't a bad thing
And I am not just saying it because it is against my team, I couldn't care who I play anyways etc, but teams are told several times about fixture lists.
Maybe a little enforcement isn't a bad thing
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14:13 Mon 2 Feb 15 (GMT) [Link]
Maybe then if late, they cannot make any changes for 1st week, and must play a minimum of 3 matches lol in their given random order.
teach them requests to be respected
teach them requests to be respected
14:24 Mon 2 Feb 15 (GMT) [Link]
True but i have noticed lately that chris has started to post for them on Saturdays and expects them by Sunday. If something happens to the authority in those 24 hours then your screwed, always thought Thursday or Friday is best as then it gives Captains a bit longer, no excuse then for not sending them in.
Point still stands above though, If its only that team who is punished then the other clans may not care as much in the title race
I am not saying it has hurt anyone, or affected anyone, but it is being lazy beyond belief.
And I am not just saying it because it is against my team, I couldn't care who I play anyways etc, but teams are told several times about fixture lists.
Maybe a little enforcement isn't a bad thing
And I am not just saying it because it is against my team, I couldn't care who I play anyways etc, but teams are told several times about fixture lists.
Maybe a little enforcement isn't a bad thing
True but i have noticed lately that chris has started to post for them on Saturdays and expects them by Sunday. If something happens to the authority in those 24 hours then your screwed, always thought Thursday or Friday is best as then it gives Captains a bit longer, no excuse then for not sending them in.
Point still stands above though, If its only that team who is punished then the other clans may not care as much in the title race
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15:56 Mon 2 Feb 15 (GMT) [Link]
The last two have been Friday and Saturday due to other commitments. Otherwise it has normally been Tuesday.
To be fair though, I don't see why any reminder should even be required as its common for the fixtures to be released on a Sunday night and all of the opponents are published in advance at the start of the season on the website.
The only time that changes is after the fcl split and the sl playoffs. Even with the sl most clans/teams could work out who they would be playing.
Too much mollycoddling on here!!!
To be fair though, I don't see why any reminder should even be required as its common for the fixtures to be released on a Sunday night and all of the opponents are published in advance at the start of the season on the website.
The only time that changes is after the fcl split and the sl playoffs. Even with the sl most clans/teams could work out who they would be playing.
Too much mollycoddling on here!!!
16:57 Mon 2 Feb 15 (GMT) [Link]
Wow a little idea I had and boom lol.
I just feel even if the alert for team sheets is a little late clans should know. I mean am I the only cap who thinks, Chris hasn't asked maybe I should just send them anyways?
I don't kow if it should be a point penalty or what tbh, but if you're running a clan one of the first things you need to do is send in a team sheet !!!
I just feel even if the alert for team sheets is a little late clans should know. I mean am I the only cap who thinks, Chris hasn't asked maybe I should just send them anyways?
I don't kow if it should be a point penalty or what tbh, but if you're running a clan one of the first things you need to do is send in a team sheet !!!
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